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[TX][H] Silver Age X-Men Omni VOl 1 &2, Absolute Batman Reborn, Inc, Owls, Dark Knight, Power Rangers Deluxe Year One & Shattered Grid, Inferno comp TPB set, Atlantis Attacks Omni, Academy X TPB Sets, Harley Quinn Kessel HC 1 & 2, Dark Avengers Complete TPB, Vision, Amethyst, tons of adds [W] Paypal

2020.09.18 23:52 jonnytech [TX][H] Silver Age X-Men Omni VOl 1 &2, Absolute Batman Reborn, Inc, Owls, Dark Knight, Power Rangers Deluxe Year One & Shattered Grid, Inferno comp TPB set, Atlantis Attacks Omni, Academy X TPB Sets, Harley Quinn Kessel HC 1 & 2, Dark Avengers Complete TPB, Vision, Amethyst, tons of adds [W] Paypal

Buyer to pay exact shipping, Pick up in Houston, TX area available
Prices are fairly flexible, especially for multiple purchases. Willing to break sets if the split makes sense. Cross-posted to other places. Ebay user feedback: Jonnytech
Pictures (can provide more on request, If it's not on this list its not available anymore)
Here are few things i'd be willing to trade for, send list and I can look: Spirit Archives 14, Absolute Ronin, Absolute Wildcats, Wrath of the Spectre omnibus, Newsboys Legion Vol 2 HC (Kirby), Legion - Enemy Manifest, Rising Stars Compendium, Ultimate FF HC 6, Green Lanterns (Rebirth) TPB Vol 8, 9; Hal Jordan and the GL Corps (Rebirth) TPB 1-7. The Green Lantern (Morrison) HC Vol 1 & 2, Green Lantern Space Traveling Heroes HC
Amazing Spider-Man issues 194 and under, Uncanny X-Men 136 and under, 1990's Green Lantern (22 and up).
Misc Essential Volumes: Amazing Spiderman 1, 2, 11; Fantastic Four 3, 8, 9; Avengers 1, 2, 8, 9; Daredevil 1, 3-6; Classic X-Men 1, Uncanny X-Men 1, 4-11; Defenders 2-7; Marvel Team up 3, 4
It's a long for sale list...

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Silver Age X-Men Omnibus set info - Vol 1 (Ross Cover) and Vol 2 (Cassaday Cover)
Both are still sealed in original shrink and in excellent shape
I am asking $729 for the set, that INCLUDES paypal fees and USPS priority shipping/insurance to the USA. Local Pick up in the Houston TX area is available. I would be happy to ship international at the buyers expense.
That price is pretty firm. Not looking to split the set right now (unless blown away with an offer). However, I would entertain a trade/partial trade. I can also throw in some singles listed below if that helps expedite a sale
Here are pictures from all angles - LINK
Be advised this set is cross posted in several places... thanks for looking!

Absolutes/Omnibus/Deluxe
Absolute Batman Reborn (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($125)
Absolute Batman Incorporated (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($75)
Absolute Batman - Court of Owls ($70)
Absolute Dark Knight Returns (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($60)
Absolute Superman - For Tomorrow (Sealed in new condition) ($30)
Power Rangers - Year One - Deluxe (Boom) ($80)
Power Rangers - Shattered Grid - Deluxe (Boom) ($50)
Atlantis Attacks Omnibus (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($75)
Star Wars - Classic UK Omnibus (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($50)

Ultimate Universe (Marvel)
Ultimate Galactus TPB - Book 1 - Nightmare ($7)
Ultimates 3 + March of Ultimatum Premier sized HC Set ($19 set)
Ultimate X-Men Vol 5 - Ultimate War ($3)

Marvel Universe HC/TPB
See top of Post for info on Silver Age X-Men Omnibus Vol 1 and 2 Set
Dark Avengers Complete Collection TBP (Bendis, $59)
Ant Man by Nick Spencer Complete TPB Set ($29)
Cloak and Dagger complete collection TPB Set ($29 Set)
Vision (King) TPB Set ($15)
Age of Ultron (Bendis) TPB ($10)
Thanos: Cosmic Power TPB ($15)
Thanos – A god up There Listening – oversized HC ($7)
Thanos Rising TPB ($5)
Star Wars - A New Hope 40th Anniversary HC (variant cover collection) ($14, in shrink)
New Avengers Vol Premier HC vol 2 (2011 second series) ($5)
Captain America – American Nightmare – Premier HC ($5)
All-New, All-Different Avengers Vol 1 - Magnificent Seven ($4)

Marvel X-Men Books
Wolverine – Origin II oversized HC ($10)
Weapon X Vol 1 TPB - Weapons of Mutant Destruction Prelude ($4)
Wolverines Complete TPB Set ($29)
Death of Wolverine TPB Tie-in Set ($25)
New X-Men - Academy X (DeFilippis/Weir) Complete TPB Set ($35 Set)
New X-Men: Childhoods End (Kyle/Yost) - Complete TPB Set Vol 1-5 ($49 Set)
X-Men: Inferno - Complete Collections TPB Vol 1 and 2 set (vol 1 has a ding on bottom spine corner) ($75 Set)

Marvel Spidy TPB
Spider-Men TPB (vol 1, Bendis) ($9)
Daily Bugle TPB (2017 version) (includes Daily bugle 1-4, Deadline 1-4, more) - ($10)
Untold Tales of Spider-Man TPB (1996 edition, 1-8, major shelf wear) - ($5)
Spider-Man and Daredevil – Greatest Team-ups (1996, major shelf wear) - ($5)

DC Misc HC’s / TPB
Spirit Archives 9, 10, 11, 22, 24, 25, 26 (all new in shrink, $175 for set, will split 9-11 out)
Harley Quinn by Kessel & Dodson HC Vol 1 and 2 ($39)
Newsboys Legion Vol 1 HC (DC Kirby Library) - ($25)
Superman Unchained – Deluxe HC (SnydeLee) ($10, minor shelf wear on jacket)
Superman / Wonder Woman (New 52) HC set ($22)
Injustice - Gods Among Us - Year 2 HC Set - Vol 1 and 2 ($24)
Amethyst - Princess of Gemworld - Showcase "phonebook" TPB - ($22)
Teen Titans (New 52) TPB – The Culling – Rise of the Ravagers - ($11)
Earth 2 (New 52) Vol 1 HC– The Gathering TPB - ($9)
Teen Titans post-Rebirth TPB Set ($29 Set)
Justice League 3000 TPB set ($15 set)

DC Batman HCs/TPB
Batman - The Dark Prince Charming HC Vol 1 and 2 (Marini, Dargaud) ($25 set)
Catwoman – Nine Lives of a Feline Fatale (minor cover creasing, shelf wear, $20)
Batman – Dark Knight Returns TPB (2002 version) ($7)
Batman - Master of the Future (1991 Prestige Format elseworlds, gaslight sequel)) ($3)
Batman and Robin – New 52 Vol 1 Bad Blood – Essential Edition TPB (Tomasi/Gleason, same contents as “Born to Kill” TPB) ($12)
Batman - In Darkest Knight (Prestige Format elseworlds) ($5)
Batman - Scottish Connection (Prestige Format) ($5)

Other
RASL Vol 1 - The Drift (TPB, B&W Treasury size) ($5)

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Legion of Super-Heroes Collection
LOSH 1st series –
Superboy and the Legion of Super-heroes – 207 (VG/F), 210 (G), 212 (VG), 213 (no cover), 215 (no cover), 218 (G+), 220 (VG), 224 (G+), 228 (G), 230 (G), 233 (no cover), 234 (VG/F), 236 (F), 237 (VG/F), 238 (reader) ($23 set)
Legion of Super-heroes – 270 (VG), 279 (VG), 280 (VG), 283 (VG), 289 (F), 296 (VG), 297 (F), 298 (VG), 299 (F), 300 (VG), 301 (F), 302 (VG/F), 303 (F), 305 (F), 306 (VG), 310 (F), 311 (F), 312 (F), 313 (F+), annual 3 (F+) ($20 set)
Tales of the Legion of Superheroes – 326 (F-, 1st reprint), 327 (x2, F), 328 (VG+), 329 (F), 346 (F), 350 (F), 352 (G) ($5 set)
LOSH 2nd Series (Levitz) –5 (F), 6 (F), 10 (F), 11 (F), 14 (VF), 17 (VF), 18 (VF, crisis), 40 (F), 43 (VF) 44 (VF/NM), 45 (F+), 47 (VF), 60 (VF), 61 (VF), 63 (VF), Legion of Substitute Heroes Special 1 (F, 1985) ($15 set)
LOSH 3d Series (1989) – 1 (VF), 2 (VF), 5 (VF), 25 (VF), 26 (VF), 41 (VF), Annual 1 (VF-), Annual 2 (VF-) ($12 set)
Legionnaires – 1 (open bag w/ Computo card), 2, 3 – AVG VF ($5 set)

New Teen Titans Collection -
If there are single issues you need let me know, I have a stack of doubles i can check
Teen Titans (1970’s) – 44 (no cover), 45 (no cover), 46 (no cover), 47 (G), 48 (no cover), 50 (G) - $7 set
New Teen Titans (Vol 1, VG if no note) - 7, 8, 11, 12, 13 (F), 17 (F), 18, 18 (F), 19, 19 (F), 20 (F), 21 (F), 22 (F), 29 (F), 30 (F), 31, 33, 36 (F), 38 (VF), 40 (F), 41 (F/VF), 47 (VF), 48 (F), 57 (F), 58 - ($30 Set)
Teen Titans Spotlight (1986) – 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 18, 21 (set avg F, $8 set)
New teen Titans (Vol 2 Baxter, 1984) – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 37, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 47 (F to VF, $38 for set)
New Titans (continued from New Teen Titans vol 2) – 65, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71 (F), 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 107, 108, 109, 117,annual 6, 7, 8, 9 (VF or better, $79 for set)
Team Titans (1992) – 1 (x5 cover set), 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15 (VF or better, $19 set)
Teen Titans (1996) – 1, 2, 3, 4 (VF or better, $8 set)
The Titans (1999) - 23, 24 - $4 set

Justice League Collection
Justice League of America (Vol 1) sets:
Post Giffen/Dematteis - $39 set
JLA (1997) - 28, 29, 30, 31 ($5 set)

West Coast Avengers + Extras - $35 set

X-Men Bronze/Copper Singles
Cable – 1 (x2), 2, 3, 15, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 30, 32, 51 (VF or better, $15 set)
X-Man – 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 18, 20, 21, 22, 26 (F), 29 (VG), 33, 38 (VG) – (VF or better, $10 set)
Excalibur – 33 (F), 34, 35, 42 (VG), 43, 46, 47, 50, 60, 70 (VG), 73, 92, 93, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 115, -1 - (VF or better, $18 set)
Magneto 0 (1993) - $2
Generation X – 1, 4, 5 (x2), 6, 18, 21 (VF or better) – ($7 set)

Marvel Singles
Warlock/Infinity War Set ($30 Set)
Micronauts – The New Voyages – 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15 – all F ( set for $5)
Hercules – Prince of Power 1984 mini – 1 (x2 DM, VG, F), 2 (x2, NS & DM, F), 3 (NS, VG/F), 4 (DM, VG/F) – (Set for $4)
Inhumans (1975 series) – 7 (reader, $1)
Official Marvel No-Prize Book (1982) + Generic Comic Book (1984) – 1 (VG, $4 set)
Secret Defenders – 1, 2, 3 (VF or better, $5 set)
Red Sonja (1982 2nd series, only 2 issues) – 1 (x2, F and VG), 2 (F) (Set for $5)
Red Sonja (1983, 3d Series) – 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 (F to F+ - set for $7)
Punisher – 2 (F), 8 (VF), 35 , 36, 41, 42, 46, 47, 48, 50, 56, 59, 60 (x2), 61, 67, 68, 103 (F+/VF-), annual 4 (F to VF), Punisher War Zone – 3, 34 (F to VF), Classic Punisher (reprints of early shorts) – ($30 set)

DC Singles
Omega Men set (1983, Avg F condition, $10 set) - 1, 2, 7, 8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 35
Infinity Inc set (1983, Avg F Condition, $25 set) - 1 (VG), 2, 3, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 22 (crisis), 23 (crisis), 46 (millennium)
Saga of Swamp Thing (1982)
DC Special Series (1977) – 10 (G, $2)
Warlord Collection
Underworld Unleashed 3 (VF/NM) $2
History of the DC Universe 1, 2 (VF, $5 set)
Invasion – 1 (F), 2 (F), 3 (x2 a DM (VF) and NS (F)) - $7 set
Millennium – 1, 2, 3 , 4 , 5, 6, 7, 8 (F to VF) - $8 set
Legends – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (F, $9 set)
All Star Comics (1999) 1, 2 (VF, $4 set)
JSA (1999) – 1 , 2 , 4 (avg VF-, $10 set)
Justice Society (1991 mini) – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 (avg VF, $6 set)
Justice Society (1992) – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 (avg VF, complete set, $15 set)
America vs the Justice Society (1985) – 1, 2, 3, 4 (VG/F) ($6 set)

Superman Singles
Superman Family Giant (1970’s)– 180, 206 (VG) (all VG, $4 Set)
Superman (1987) – 73 (VF), 109, 111, 112, 114, 118 – ($10 set)
Superman: The Man of Steel – 55, 57, 60, 61, 63 ($7 set)
Adventures of Superman – 532, 541, 543 ($5 set)
Superman – the Man of Tomorrow – 4, 5, 6, 7 ($5 set)
Superboy (1994) – 1, 2, 11 (all F, $3 set)
Supergirl (1994 mini) – 1, 2 (all F, $2)
Steel (1994) – 1, 3 – ($4 set)
World of Smallville – 1, 2 – ($2 set)

Other Singles
John Sable, Freelance (First Comics, mid 1980s Mike Grell) – 5, 8 (x2), 9, 10, 11 (x2), 14, 15, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 45, 48, 52 (Avg F condition, $20 for set)

Blu Ray/DVD Sets
Stargate SG1 Season 1 DVD Set - ($5)
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2020.09.16 17:05 DamnDam Meta: Congratulations! You just won millions of dollars in the lottery!

Congratulations! You just won millions of dollars in the lottery! That's great.
Now you're fucked.
No really.
You are.
You're fucked.
If you just want to skip the biographical tales of woe of some of the math-tax protagonists, skip on down to the next comment. To see what to do in the event you win the lottery.
You see, it's something of an open secret that winners of obnoxiously large jackpots tend to end up badly with alarming regularity. Not the $1 million dollar winners. But anyone in the nine-figure range is at high risk. Eight-figures? Pretty likely to be screwed. Seven-figures? Yep. Painful. Perhaps this is a consequence of the sample. The demographics of lottery players might be exactly the wrong people to win large sums of money. Or perhaps money is the root of all evil. Either way, you are going to have to be careful. Don't believe me? Consider this:
Large jackpot winners face double digit multiples of probability versus the general population to be the victim of:
1. Homicide (something like 20x more likely)
2. Drug overdose
3. Bankruptcy (how's that for irony?)
4. Kidnapping
And triple digit multiples of probability versus the general population rate to be:
1. Convicted of drunk driving
2. The victim of Homicide (at the hands of a family member) 120x more likely in this case, ain't love grand?
3. A defendant in a civil lawsuit
4. A defendant in felony criminal proceedings
Believe it or not, your biggest enemy if you suddenly become possessed of large sums of money is... you. At least you will have the consolation of meeting your fate by your own hand. But if you can't manage it on your own, don't worry. There are any number of willing participants ready to help you start your vicious downward spiral for you. Mind you, many of these will be "friends," "friendly neighbors," or "family." Often, they won't even have evil intentions. But, as I'm sure you know, that makes little difference in the end. Most aren't evil. Most aren't malicious. Some are. None are good for you.
Jack Whittaker, a Johnny Cash attired, West Virginia native, is the poster boy for the dangers of a lump sum award. In 2002 Mr. Whittaker (55 years old at the time) won what was, also at the time, the largest single award jackpot in U.S. history. $315 million. At the time, he planned to live as if nothing had changed, or so he said. He was remarkably modest and decent before the jackpot, and his ship sure came in, right? Wrong.
Mr. Whittaker became the subject of a number of personal challenges, escalating into personal tragedies, complicated by a number of legal troubles.
Whittaker wasn't a typical lottery winner either. His net worth at the time of his winnings was in excess of $15 million, owing to his ownership of a successful contracting firm in West Virginia. His claim to want to live "as if nothing had changed" actually seemed plausible. He should have been well equipped for wealth. He was already quite wealthy, after all. By all accounts he was somewhat modest, low profile, generous and good natured. He should have coasted off into the sunset. Yeah. Not exactly.
Whittaker took the all-cash option, $170 million, instead of the annuity option, and took possession of $114 million in cash after $56 million in taxes. After that, things went south.
Whittaker quickly became the subject of a number of financial stalkers, who would lurk at his regular breakfast hideout and accost him with suggestions for how to spend his money. They were unemployed. No, an interview tomorrow morning wasn't good enough. They needed cash NOW. Perhaps they had a sure-fire business plan. Their daughter had cancer. A niece needed dialysis. Needless to say, Whittaker stopped going to his breakfast haunt. Eventually, they began ringing his doorbell. Sometimes in the early morning. Before long he was paying off-duty deputies to protect his family. He was accused of being heartless. Cold. Stingy.
Letters poured in. Children with cancer. Diabetes. MS. You name it. He hired three people to sort the mail. A detective to filter out the false claims and the con men (and women) was retained.
Brenda, the clerk who had sold Whittaker the ticket, was a victim of collateral damage. Whittaker had written her a check for $44,000 and bought her house, but she was by no means a millionaire. Rumors that the state routinely paid the clerk who had sold the ticket 10% of the jackpot winnings hounded her. She was followed home from work. Threatened. Assaulted.
Whittaker's car was twice broken into, by trusted acquaintances who watched him leave large amounts of cash in it. $500,000 and $200,000 were stolen in two separate instances. The thieves spiked Whittaker's drink with prescription drugs in the first instance. The second incident was the handiwork of his granddaughter's friends, who had been probing the girl for details on Whittaker's cash for weeks.
Even Whittaker's good-faith generosity was questioned. When he offered $10,000 to improve the city's water park so that it was more handicap accessible, locals complained that he spent more money at the strip club. (Amusingly this was true).
Whittaker invested quite a bit in his own businesses, tripled the number of people his businesses employed (making him one of the larger employers in the area) and eventually had given away $14 million to charity through a foundation he set up for the purpose. This is, of course, what you are "supposed" to do. Set up a foundation. Be careful about your charity giving. It made no difference in the end.
To top it all off, Whittaker had been accused of ruining a number of marriages. His money made other men look inferior, they said, wherever he went in the small West Virginia town he called home. Resentment grew quickly. And festered. Whittaker paid four settlements related to this sort of claim. Yes, you read that right. Four.
His family and their immediate circle were quickly the victims of odds-defying numbers of overdoses, emergency room visits and even fatalities. His granddaughter, the eighteen year old "Brandi" (who Whittaker had been giving a $2100.00 per week allowance) was found dead after having been missing for several weeks. Her death was, apparently, from a drug overdose, but Whittaker suspected foul play. Her body had been wrapped in a tarp and hidden behind a rusted-out van. Her seventeen year old boyfriend had expired three months earlier in Whittaker's vacation house, also from an overdose. Some of his friends had robbed the house after his overdose, stepping over his body to make their escape and then returning for more before stepping over his body again to leave. His parents sued for wrongful death claiming that Whittaker's loose purse strings contributed to their son's death. Amazingly, juries are prone to award damages in cases such as these. Whittaker settled. Again.
Even before the deaths, the local and state police had taken a special interest in Whittaker after his new-found fame. He was arrested for minor and less minor offenses many times after his winnings, despite having had a nearly spotless record before the award. Whittaker's high profile couldn't have helped him much in this regard.
In 18 months Whittaker had been cited for over 250 violations ranging from broken tail lights on every one of his five new cars, to improper display of renewal stickers. A lawsuit charging various police organizations with harassment went nowhere and Whittaker was hit with court costs instead.
Whittaker's wife filed for divorce, and in the process froze a number of his assets and the accounts of his operating companies. Caesars in Atlantic City sued him for $1.5 million to cover bounced checks, caused by the asset freeze.
Today Whittaker is badly in debt, and bankruptcy looms large in his future.
But, hey, that's just one example, right?
Wrong.
Nearly one third of multi-million dollar jackpot winners eventually declare bankruptcy. Some end up worse. To give you just a taste of the possibilities, consider the fates of:
So, what the hell DO you do if you are unlucky enough to win the lottery?
This is the absolutely most important thing you can do right away: NOTHING.
Yes. Nothing.
DO NOT DECLARE YOURSELF THE WINNER yet.
Do NOT tell anyone. The urge is going to be nearly irresistible. Resist it. Trust me.
1. IMMEDIATELY retain an attorney.
Get a partner from a larger, NATIONAL firm. Don't let them pawn off junior partners or associates on you. They might try, all law firms might, but insist instead that your lead be a partner who has been with the firm for awhile. Do NOT use your local attorney. Yes, I mean your long-standing family attorney who did your mother's will. Do not use the guy who fought your dry-cleaner bill. Do not use the guy you have trusted your entire life because of his long and faithful service to your family. In fact, do not use any firm that has any connection to family or friends or community. TRUST me. This is bad. You want someone who has never heard of you, any of your friends, or any member of your family. Go the the closest big city and walk into one of the national firms asking for one of the "Trust and Estates" partners you have previously looked up on http://www.martindale.com from one of the largest 50 firms in the United States which has an office near you. You can look up attornies by practice area and firm on Martindale.
2. Decide to take the lump sum.
Most lotteries pay a really pathetic rate for the annuity. It usually hovers around 4.5% annual return or less, depending. It doesn't take much to do better than this, and if you have the money already in cash, rather than leaving it in the hands of the state, you can pull from the capital whenever you like. If you take the annuity you won't have access to that cash. That could be good. It could be bad. It's probably bad unless you have a very addictive personality. If you need an allowance managed by the state, it is because you didn't listen to point #1 above.
Why not let the state just handle it for you and give you your allowance?
Many state lotteries pay you your "allowence" (the annuity option) by buying U.S. treasury instruments and running the interest payments through their bureaucracy before sending it to you along with a hunk of the principal every month. You will not be beating inflation by much, if at all. There is no reason you couldn't do this yourself, if a low single-digit return is acceptable to you.
You aren't going to get even remotely the amount of the actual jackpot. Take our old friend Mr. Whittaker. Using Whittaker is a good model both because of the reminder of his ignominious decline, and the fact that his winning ticket was one of the larger ones on record. If his situation looks less than stellar to you, you might have a better perspective on how "large" your winnings aren't. Whittaker's "jackpot" was $315 million. He selected the lump-sum cash up-front option, which knocked off $145 million (or 46% of the total) leaving him with $170 million. That was then subject to withholding for taxes of $56 million (33%) leaving him with $114 million.
In general, you should expect to get about half of the original jackpot if you elect a lump sum (maybe better, it depends). After that, you should expect to lose around 33% of your already pruned figure to state and federal taxes. (Your mileage may vary, particularly if you live in a state with aggressive taxation schemes).
3. Decide right now, how much you plan to give to family and friends.
This really shouldn't be more than 20% or so. Figure it out right now. Pick your number. Tell your lawyer. That's it. Don't change it. 20% of $114 million is $22.8 million. That leaves you with $91.2 million. DO NOT CONSULT WITH FAMILY when deciding how much to give to family. You are going to get advice that is badly tainted by conflict of interest, and if other family members find out that Aunt Flo was consulted and they weren't you will never hear the end of it. Neither will Aunt Flo. This might later form the basis for an allegation that Aunt Flo unduly influenced you and a lawsuit might magically appear on this basis. No, I'm not kidding. I know of one circumstance (related to a business windfall, not a lottery) where the plaintiffs WON this case.
Do NOT give anyone cash. Ever. Period. Just don't. Do not buy them houses. Do not buy them cars. Tell your attorney that you want to provide for your family, and that you want to set up a series of trusts for them that will total 20% of your after tax winnings. Tell him you want the trust empowered to fund higher education, some help (not a total) purchase of their first home, some provision for weddings and the like, whatever. Do NOT put yourself in the position of handing out cash. Once you do, if you stop, you will be accused of being a heartless bastard (or bitch). Trust me. It won't go well.
It will be easy to lose perspective. It is now the duty of your friends, family, relatives, hangers-on and their inner circle to skew your perspective, and they take this job quite seriously. Setting up a trust, a managed fund for your family that is in the double digit millions is AMAZINGLY generous. You need never have trouble sleeping because you didn't lend Uncle Jerry $20,000 in small denomination unmarked bills to start his chain of deep-fried peanut butter pancake restaurants. ("Deep'n 'nutter Restaurants") Your attorney will have a number of good ideas how to parse this wealth out without turning your siblings/spouse/children/grandchildren/cousins/waitresses into the latest Paris Hilton.
4. You will be encouraged to hire an investment manager. Considerable pressure will be applied. Don't.
Investment managers charge fees, usually a percentage of assets. Consider this: If they charge 1% (which is low, I doubt you could find this deal, actually) they have to beat the market by 1% every year just to break even with a general market index fund. It is not worth it, and you don't need the extra return or the extra risk. Go for the index fund instead if you must invest in stocks. This is a hard rule to follow. They will come recommended by friends. They will come recommended by family. They will be your second cousin on your mother's side. Investment managers will sound smart. They will have lots of cool acronyms. They will have nice PowerPoint presentations. They might (MIGHT) pay for your shrimp cocktail lunch at TGI Friday's while reminding you how poor their side of the family is. They live for this stuff.
You should smile, thank them for their time, and then tell them you will get back to them next week. Don't sign ANYTHING. Don't write it on a cocktail napkin (lottery lawsuit cases have been won and lost over drunkenly scrawled cocktail napkin addition and subtraction figures with lots of zeros on them). Never call them back. Trust me. You will thank me later. This tactic, smiling, thanking people for their time, and promising to get back to people, is going to have to become familiar. You will have to learn to say no gently, without saying the word "no." It sounds underhanded. Sneaky. It is. And its part of your new survival strategy. I mean the word "survival" quite literally.
Get all this figured out BEFORE you claim your winnings. They aren't going anywhere. Just relax.
5. If you elect to be more global about your paranoia, use between 20.00% and 33.00% of what you have not decided to commit to a family fund IMMEDIATELY to purchase a combination of longer term U.S. treasuries (5 or 10 year are a good idea) and perhaps even another G7 treasury instrument. This is your safety net. You will be protected... from yourself.
You are going to be really tempted to starting being a big investor. You are going to be convinced that you can double your money in Vegas with your awesome Roulette system/by funding your friend's amazing idea to sell Lemming dung/buying land for oil drilling/by shorting the North Pole Ice market (global warming, you know). This all sounds tempting because "Even if I lose it all I still have $XX million left! Anyone could live on that comfortably for the rest of their life." Yeah, except for 33% of everyone who won the lottery.
You're not going to double your money, so cool it. Let me say that again. You're not going to double your money, so cool it. Right now, you'll get around 3.5% on the 10 year U.S. treasury. With $18.2 million (20% of $91.2 mil after your absurdly generous family gift) invested in those you will pull down $638,400 per year. If everything else blows up, you still have that, and you will be in the top 1% of income in the United States. So how about you not fuck with it. Eh? And that's income that is damn safe. If we get to the point where the United States defaults on those instruments, we are in far worse shape than worrying about money.
If you are really paranoid, you might consider picking another G7 or otherwise mainstream country other than the U.S. according to where you want to live if the United States dissolves into anarchy or Britney Spears is elected to the United States Senate. Put some fraction in something like Swiss Government Bonds at 3%. If the Swiss stop paying on their government debt, well, then you know money really means nothing anywhere on the globe anymore. I'd study small field sustainable agriculture if you think this is a possibility. You might have to start feedng yourself.
6. That leaves, say, 80% of $91.2 million or $72.9 million.
Here is where things start to get less clear. Personally, I think you should dump half of this, or $36.4 million, into a boring S&P 500 index fund. Find something with low fees. You are going to be constantly tempted to retain "sophisticated" advisers who charge "nominal fees." Don't. Period. Even if you lose every other dime, you have $638,400 per year you didn't have before that will keep coming in until the United States falls into chaos. Fuck advisers and their fees. Instead, drop your $36.4 million in the market in a low fee vehicle. Unless we have an unprecedented downturn the likes of which the United States has never seen, should return around 7.00% or so over the next 10 years. You should expect to touch not even a dime of this money for 10 or 15 or even 20 years. In 20 years $36.4 million could easily become $115 million.
7. So you have put a safety net in place.
You have provided for your family beyond your wildest dreams. And you still have $36.4 million in "cash." You know you will be getting $638,400 per year unless the capital building is burning, you don't ever need to give anyone you care about cash, since they are provided for generously and responsibly (and can't blow it in Vegas) and you have a HUGE nest egg that is growing at market rates. (Given the recent dip, you'll be buying in at great prices for the market). What now? Whatever you want. Go ahead and burn through $36.4 million in hookers and blow if you want. You've got more security than 99% of the country. A lot of it is in trusts so even if you are sued your family will live well, and progress across generations. If your lawyer is worth his salt (I bet he is) then you will be insulated from most lawsuits anyhow. Buy a nice house or two, make sure they aren't stupid investments though. Go ahead and be an angel investor and fund some startups, but REFUSE to do it for anyone you know. (Friends and money, oil and water - Michael Corleone) Play. Have fun. You earned it by putting together the shoe sizes of your whole family on one ticket and winning the jackpot.
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2020.09.15 07:58 not_matched_2001 Three "kinda kinky, kinda evil" games for well established couples

Here's some ideas from me and please remember, everything is optional. If it dials you to 11, just adjust accordingly. This should be fun and not too distressing. Also, always to remember to keep it safe. These games I have in my mind are for long term relationships which have an active sex life and enough time to enjoy.
First one:
Go lie in his bed right before he goes to sleep and start your little vibe on your clit. He'll notice immediately and will probably ask to join (or watch). Tell him to join, but he must stay inside of you (no backing up after he's in) and NOT ejaculate before you have an orgasm. Here's the rules of that particular game:
Once he agrees and enters, there are only three outcomes to consider:
So the point is to do most of the "work" yourself and have him inside you as a bonus to enjoy, but feel free to slow down a bit to torture him in a good way. If he's deep inside of you, but doesn't dare to move (because he's close and edging already), just speed up your technique, move your hips for that little extra stimulation and he'll have no choice but to ejaculate. (Once I had him on the edge for around 30 minutes when he decided to throw out the vibe and use his hands down there on me, while starting to thrust again... few seconds later we both exploded in pleasure - wouldn't want to miss moments like this.) Oh, and make sure he'll notice you're enjoying yourself a LOT and it'll make it even harder for him to keep up. If he cums inside me when I'm close, there's a good chance we'll orgasm together (that counts as a win).
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Second one:
This one will be evil, maybe a little too much for some. Just a gentle reminder about trust... do this only, if you're sure he's fine with what you're going to make him do. A reliable form of BC is mandatory for this one. his could end in disaster.
He'll ask you to have sex every once in a while and then there's the moment, where you can make your life just a little bit easier for some pleasure. You tell him stuff like "maybe later" and "I'm not quite sure if I'll be in the mood later", "ask me again after dinner" etc, just to make him wait until the evening. Later, when you're ready and can't or won't procrastinate any more, you tell him you're not really in the mood, but wouldn't mind just a little fun for teasing him the whole day... Only three things: 1) he shouldn't try to wait for you, 2) that he'll pull out and finishes in a towel, so you don't have to clean it up and 3) he does all the work himself (meaning you chose the most comfortable position to execute your evil plan).
More often than not he'll agree and there's your chance. When he enters you, tell him he should remember to pull out or he'll be punished by (for example) doing a task or job you hate to do (garden duty, toilet or general cleaning of the house, doing the wash, dishes... you'll figure something out. Now 99% will probably agree, as most men are confident they can pull out in time, but THIS time you'll play dirty.
Have him working on it until his "point of no return" (if you don't know the signs when he's reached that point, you should get more experienced together). This is about the time when he tries to pull out, but here's the twist: DON'T let him go! Wrap your arms and legs around him and move your hips. Or just don't get off of him, should you somehow end up on top. He'll have no chance but to inject you with every last drop. Bonus points for evil laughter after he accepted his fate. Then give him a kiss and tell him you hope he enjoys cleaning the toilet as much as he did enjoy that ride. This usually only works once, so time it right for something on your list you really hate to do. Don't be too evil on the chore though. It should be something you really don't want to do, but nothing too horrible, as that may lead to a dead bedroom and nobody wants that.
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Third one:
Test his stamina. How often is too often? You'll find out with this one! Tell him, he's not allowed to touch himself. No exceptions but for the obvious hygiene and toilet stuff. If he's horny even just a tiny little bit, he has to tell you and you'll be the one that takes care of it ASAP in any way you want. Hands, toys, BJ, a ride, all of it, your choice, only goal is to get him off every single time at the first opportunity after he tells you. Do it for a fixed period of time that's convenient to you. A week should suffice and getting him off is usually not too much work. That way, you get a feeling on how often it would work for him and at what times. Make sure he'll enjoy those 5 days, for he may regret them later. *queue evil laughter
Now the twist! After the week (or month, or day, or weekend, whatever you've agreed upon), it's YOUR turn. He has to help you with your urges any time you feel the need to and it's HIS choice to get the job done. More often than not he'll opt in to have fun himself (as you also probably also did the week before) plus whatever helps him finish you. He'll do it good and often, as often, as you want. If he's not using his D any more or needs lots of lube, then that's his limit. You can test this out over a weekend or maybe week, just don't ruin him completely. More evil stuff to combine with this:
If you finish first, throw him off and leave him with a "thanks" and a smile. Remember, it's your turn, not his. (How delightfully evil). Should he finish first, let him eat it for more stamina next time (which will be very soon). If you're not into this, just skip your week of pleasure and replace the "urges" thing with "tasks" like cleaning, etc. For having had fun a week, he now has to pay with doing the dirty work. He already had what he wanted, so you basically exchange the "favors" for chores.
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So, those were my ideas. I may be thinking of more.
The partners I did this before did always enjoy the ride, even with the twists and failures inbetween. Some twists and experiments may result in some unexpected wet endings (of the really good kind). Love yourself, love your partner and have fun!
Here's a couple of extra tipps:
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2020.09.15 02:10 jonnytech [TX][H] Silver Age X-Men Omni VOl 1 &2, Absolute Batman Reborn, Inc, Owls, Dark Knight, Power Rangers Deluxe Year One & Shattered Grid, Inferno comp TPB set, Atlantis Attacks Omni, Academy X TPB Sets, Harley Quinn Kessel HC 1 & 2, Dark Avengers Complete TPB, Vision, Amethyst, tons of adds [W] Paypal

Tons of New stuff!
- Some Absolutes (Batman Reborn, Incorporated, Court of owls Dark Knight, Superman For Tomorrow)
- Power Rangers Deluxe HC's (Year One, Shattered Grid)
- Atlantis Attacks Omni
- Amethyst - Showcase TPB
- Moon Knight Vol 1 - From the Dead TPB (Ellis)
- Ultimate Galactus TPB 1, Ultimates 3 + March on Ultimatum + Ultimatum Premier HCs
- Wolverines (the weekly) TPB set Vol 1-4
- Death of Wolverine Tie in TPB set
- New X-Men Sets - Academy X 1-3 + Hellions, Childhood's End Vol 1-5
- Cloak and Dagger Complete Collection Vol 1 and 2
- Inferno Complete Collection Vol and 2
- Avengers Initiate Complete Collection Vol 1 and 2
- Dark Avengers Complete Collection TPB
- Ant-Man Spencer TPB Set
- Teen Titans (post Rebirth by Glass) TPB Set Vol 1, 2, 3 (full throttle, Turn it up, seek and destroy)
- Supersons (Rebirth) TPB Set - Vol 1-3
- Justice League 3000 TPB Set (2 TPBs)
- Red Hood and the Outlaws (New 52) Vol 1-4 set
- I, Vampire (New 52) Vol 1-3 set
- Batman - The Dark Prince Charming HC Vol 1 and 2 (sealed)
- RASL Vol 1 - The Drift B&W treasury Size

Silver Age X-Men Omnibus set info - Vol 1 (Ross Cover) and Vol 2 (Cassaday Cover)
Both are still sealed in original shrink and in excellent shape
I am asking $729 for the set, that INCLUDES paypal fees and USPS priority shipping/insurance to the USA. Local Pick up in the Houston TX area is available. I would be happy to ship international at the buyers expense.
That price is pretty firm. Not looking to split the set right now (unless blown away with an offer). However, I would entertain a trade/partial trade. I can also throw in some singles listed below if that helps expedite a sale
Here are pictures from all angles - LINK
Be advised this set is cross posted in several places... thanks for looking!

Buyer to pay exact shipping, Pick up in Houston, TX area available
Prices are fairly flexible, especially for multiple purchases. Willing to break sets if the split makes sense. Cross-posted to other places. Ebay user feedback: Jonnytech
Pictures (can provide more on request, If it's not on this list its not available anymore)
Here are few things i'd be willing to trade for, send list and I can look: Spirit Archives 14, Absolute Ronin, Absolute Wildcats, Wrath of the Spectre omnibus, Newsboys Legion Vol 2 HC (Kirby), Legion - Enemy Manifest, Rising Stars Compendium, Ultimate FF HC 6, Green Lanterns (Rebirth) TPB Vol 8, 9; Hal Jordan and the GL Corps (Rebirth) TPB 1-7. The Green Lantern (Morrison) HC Vol 1 & 2, Green Lantern Space Traveling Heroes HC
Amazing Spider-Man issues 194 and under, Uncanny X-Men 136 and under, 1990's Green Lantern (22 and up).
Misc Essential Volumes: Amazing Spiderman 1, 2, 11; Fantastic Four 3, 8, 9; Avengers 1, 2, 8, 9; Daredevil 1, 3-6; Classic X-Men 1, Uncanny X-Men 1, 4-11; Defenders 2-7; Marvel Team up 3, 4
It's a long for sale list...

-----Trades and HCs (buyer to pay exact shipping)-------
Absolutes/Omnibus/Deluxe
Absolute Batman Reborn (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($125)
Absolute Batman Incorporated (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($75)
Absolute Batman - Court of Owls ($70)
Absolute Dark Knight Returns (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($60)
Absolute Superman - For Tomorrow (Sealed in new condition) ($30)
Power Rangers - Year One - Deluxe (Boom) ($80)
Power Rangers - Shattered Grid - Deluxe (Boom) ($50)
Atlantis Attacks Omnibus (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($75)
Star Wars - Classic UK Omnibus (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($50)

Ultimate Universe (Marvel)
Ultimate Galactus TPB - Book 1 - Nightmare ($7)
Ultimates 3 + March of Ultimatum Premier sized HC Set ($19 set)
Ultimate X-Men Vol 5 - Ultimate War ($3) - will include free with either set

Marvel Universe HC/TPB
See top of Post for info on Silver Age X-Men Omnibus Vol 1 and 2 Set
Dark Avengers Complete Collection TBP (Bendis, $59)
Ant Man by Nick Spencer Complete TPB Set ($29)
Cloak and Dagger complete collection TPB Set ($29 Set)
Avengers - The Initiative - Complete Collection set - Vol 1 and 2 ($59 set)
Moon Knight Vol 1 TPB - From the Dead (Ellis) ($23)
Vision (King) TPB Set ($15)
Age of Ultron (Bendis) TPB ($10)
Thanos: Cosmic Power TPB ($15)
Thanos – A god up There Listening – oversized HC ($7)
Thanos Rising TPB ($5)
Star Wars - A New Hope 40th Anniversary HC (variant cover collection) ($14, in shrink)
New Avengers Vol Premier HC vol 2 (2011 second series) ($5)
Captain America – American Nightmare – Premier HC ($5)
All-New, All-Different Avengers Vol 1 - Magnificent Seven ($4)

Marvel X-Men Books
Wolverine – Origin II oversized HC ($10)
Weapon X Vol 1 TPB - Weapons of Mutant Destruction Prelude ($4)
Wolverines Complete TPB Set ($29)
Death of Wolverine TPB Tie-in Set ($25)
New X-Men - Academy X (DeFilippis/Weir) Complete TPB Set ($35 Set)
New X-Men: Childhoods End (Kyle/Yost) - Complete TPB Set Vol 1-5 ($49 Set)
X-Men: Inferno - Complete Collections TPB Vol 1 and 2 set (vol 1 has a ding on bottom spine corner) ($75 Set)

Marvel Spidy TPB
Spider-Men TPB (vol 1, Bendis) ($9)
Daily Bugle TPB (2017 version) (includes Daily bugle 1-4, Deadline 1-4, more) - ($10)
Untold Tales of Spider-Man TPB (1996 edition, 1-8, major shelf wear) - ($5)
Spider-Man and Daredevil – Greatest Team-ups (1996, major shelf wear) - ($5)

DC Misc HC’s / TPB
Spirit Archives 9, 10, 11, 22, 24, 25, 26 (all new in shrink, $175 for set, will split 9-11 out)
Harley Quinn by Kessel & Dodson HC Vol 1 and 2 ($39)
Newsboys Legion Vol 1 HC (DC Kirby Library) - ($25)
Superman Unchained – Deluxe HC (SnydeLee) ($10, minor shelf wear on jacket)
Superman / Wonder Woman (New 52) HC set ($22)
Injustice - Gods Among Us - Year 2 HC Set - Vol 1 and 2 ($24)
Amethyst - Princess of Gemworld - Showcase "phonebook" TPB - ($22)
Teen Titans (New 52) TPB – The Culling – Rise of the Ravagers - ($12)
Earth 2 (New 52) Vol 1 HC– The Gathering TPB - ($10)
Super Sons - Rebirth Complete TPB Set ($29 Set)
Teen Titans post-Rebirth TPB Set ($29 Set)
Justice League 3000 TPB set ($15 set)
Red Hood and the Outlaws - New 52 TPB Set ($35 set)
I, Vampire - New 52 complete TPB Set ($25 set)

DC Batman HCs/TPB
Batman - The Dark Prince Charming HC Vol 1 and 2 (Marini, Dargaud) ($25 set)
Catwoman – Nine Lives of a Feline Fatale (minor cover creasing, shelf wear, $20)
Batman – Gotham County Line TPB ($10)
Batman – Dark Knight Returns TPB (2002 version) ($7)
Batman – Gotham By Gaslight TPB (2006 edition, includes Master of the Future) ($6)
Batman - Master of the Future (1991 Prestige Format elseworlds, gaslight sequel)) ($3)
Batman and Robin – New 52 Vol 1 Bad Blood – Essential Edition TPB (Tomasi/Gleason, same contents as “Born to Kill” TPB) ($12)
Batman - In Darkest Knight (Prestige Format elseworlds) ($5)
Batman - Scottish Connection (Prestige Format) ($5)

Other
RASL Vol 1 - The Drift (TPB, B&W Treasury size) ($5)

------SINGLES------- Buyer pays exact shipping
Legion of Super-Heroes Collection
LOSH 1st series –
Superboy and the Legion of Super-heroes – 207 (VG/F), 210 (G), 212 (VG), 213 (no cover), 215 (no cover), 218 (G+), 220 (VG), 224 (G+), 228 (G), 230 (G), 233 (no cover), 234 (VG/F), 236 (F), 237 (VG/F), 238 (reader) ($23 set)
Legion of Super-heroes – 270 (VG), 279 (VG), 280 (VG), 283 (VG), 289 (F), 296 (VG), 297 (F), 298 (VG), 299 (F), 300 (VG), 301 (F), 302 (VG/F), 303 (F), 305 (F), 306 (VG), 310 (F), 311 (F), 312 (F), 313 (F+), annual 3 (F+) ($20 set)
Tales of the Legion of Superheroes – 326 (F-, 1st reprint), 327 (x2, F), 328 (VG+), 329 (F), 346 (F), 350 (F), 352 (G) ($5 set)
LOSH 2nd Series (Levitz) –5 (F), 6 (F), 10 (F), 11 (F), 14 (VF), 17 (VF), 18 (VF, crisis), 40 (F), 43 (VF) 44 (VF/NM), 45 (F+), 47 (VF), 60 (VF), 61 (VF), 63 (VF), Legion of Substitute Heroes Special 1 (F, 1985) ($15 set)
LOSH 3d Series (1989) – 1 (VF), 2 (VF), 5 (VF), 25 (VF), 26 (VF), 41 (VF), Annual 1 (VF-), Annual 2 (VF-) ($12 set)
Legionnaires – 1 (open bag w/ Computo card), 2, 3 – AVG VF ($5 set)

New Teen Titans Collection -
If there are single issues you need let me know, I have a stack of doubles i can check
Teen Titans (1970’s) – 44 (no cover), 45 (no cover), 46 (no cover), 47 (G), 48 (no cover), 50 (G) - $7 set
Teen Titans Spotlight (1986) – 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 18, 21 (set avg F, $8 set)
New teen Titans (Vol 2 Baxter, 1984) – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 37, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 47 (F to VF, $38 for set)
New Titans (continued from New Teen Titans vol 2) – 65, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71 (F), 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 107, 108, 109, 117,annual 6, 7, 8, 9 (VF or better, $79 for set)
Team Titans (1992) – 1 (x5 cover set), 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15 (VF or better, $19 set)
Teen Titans (1996) – 1, 2, 3, 4 (VF or better, $8 set)
The Titans (1999) - 23, 24 - $4 set

Justice League Collection
Justice League of America (Vol 1) sets:
Post Giffen/Dematteis - $39 set
JLA (1997) - 28, 29, 30, 31 ($5 set)

West Coast Avengers + Extras - $35 set

X-Men Bronze/Copper Singles
Cable – 1 (x2), 2, 3, 15, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 30, 32, 51 (VF or better, $15 set)
X-Man – 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 18, 20, 21, 22, 26 (F), 29 (VG), 33, 38 (VG) – (VF or better, $10 set)
Excalibur – 33 (F), 34, 35, 42 (VG), 43, 46, 47, 50, 60, 70 (VG), 73, 92, 93, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 115, -1 - (VF or better, $18 set)
Magneto 0 (1993) - $2
Generation X – 1, 4, 5 (x2), 6, 18, 21 (VF or better) – ($7 set)

Marvel Singles
Warlock/Infinity War Set ($30 Set)
Micronauts – The New Voyages – 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15 – all F ( set for $5)
Hercules – Prince of Power 1984 mini – 1 (x2 DM, VG, F), 2 (x2, NS & DM, F), 3 (NS, VG/F), 4 (DM, VG/F) – (Set for $4)
Inhumans (1975 series) – 7 (reader, $1)
Official Marvel No-Prize Book (1982) + Generic Comic Book (1984) – 1 (VG, $4 set)
Secret Defenders – 1, 2, 3 (VF or better, $5 set)
Red Sonja (1982 2nd series, only 2 issues) – 1 (x2, F and VG), 2 (F) (Set for $5)
Red Sonja (1983, 3d Series) – 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 (F to F+ - set for $7)
Punisher – 2 (F), 8 (VF), 35 , 36, 41, 42, 46, 47, 48, 50, 56, 59, 60 (x2), 61, 67, 68, 103 (F+/VF-), annual 4 (F to VF), Punisher War Zone – 3, 34 (F to VF), Classic Punisher (reprints of early shorts) – ($30 set)

DC Singles
Omega Men set (1983, Avg F condition, $10 set) - 1, 2, 7, 8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 35
Infinity Inc set (1983, Avg F Condition, $25 set) - 1 (VG), 2, 3, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 22 (crisis), 23 (crisis), 46 (millennium)
Saga of Swamp Thing (1982)
DC Special Series (1977) – 10 (G, $2)
Warlord Collection
Underworld Unleashed 3 (VF/NM) $2
History of the DC Universe 1, 2 (VF, $5 set)
Invasion – 1 (F), 2 (F), 3 (x2 a DM (VF) and NS (F)) - $7 set
Millennium – 1, 2, 3 , 4 , 5, 6, 7, 8 (F to VF) - $8 set
Legends – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (F, $9 set)
All Star Comics (1999) 1, 2 (VF, $4 set)
JSA (1999) – 1 , 2 , 4 (avg VF-, $10 set)
Justice Society (1991 mini) – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 (avg VF, $6 set)
Justice Society (1992) – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 (avg VF, complete set, $15 set)
America vs the Justice Society (1985) – 1, 2, 3, 4 (VG/F) ($6 set)

Superman Singles
Superman Family Giant (1970’s)– 180, 206 (VG) (all VG, $4 Set)
Superman (1987) – 73 (VF), 109, 111, 112, 114, 118 – ($10 set)
Superman: The Man of Steel – 55, 57, 60, 61, 63 ($7 set)
Adventures of Superman – 532, 541, 543 ($5 set)
Superman – the Man of Tomorrow – 4, 5, 6, 7 ($5 set)
Superboy (1994) – 1, 2, 11 (all F, $3 set)
Supergirl (1994 mini) – 1, 2 (all F, $2)
Steel (1994) – 1, 3 – ($4 set)
World of Smallville – 1, 2 – ($2 set)

Other Singles
John Sable, Freelance (First Comics, mid 1980s Mike Grell) – 5, 8 (x2), 9, 10, 11 (x2), 14, 15, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 45, 48, 52 (Avg F condition, $20 for set)

Blu Ray/DVD Sets
Stargate SG1 Season 1 DVD Set - ($5)
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2020.09.14 23:28 wisely1300 Appreciation for Girl's Day

I meant to make this post like 2 months ago on their 10th (!!) anniversary, but medical school is a bitch so I only found time to do so now. Anyways, happy (very belated whoops) anniversary to my forever ult OT4. Criminally underrated by ifans who always put them down as some mid-tier group/one-hit wonder (tf??), Girl's Day is the the girl-group with some of the closest bonds in all of Kpop and one of the unlikeliest of underdog stories. They came from the smallest of agencies to become one of the most successful and well-known girl groups in Korea. And when I say smallest of agencies, I literally mean it, other groups also claim small agencies but at least those agencies had some connections and experiences in the entertainment industry before debuting those groups, but Girl's Day agency literally debuted into the entertainment industry with them with 0 connections whatsoever. The CEO decided to do so because he fell in love with Minah's voice, so he sold his vocal training company to try to debut a group with Minah in it. In 99.9999% of cases, that would prob be one of the dumbest investments ever. Girl's Day had to overcome both a terrible debut and multiple members loss, but ultimately, they captured their first win after 1095 days after debut (still a record for girl groups whoops) and went on to reward their CEO's faith in them.
Sojin: our sexy mechanical engineer leader. The backbone of Girl's Day. Thank you Sojin for raising the 3 raucous kids of Girl's Day. You cleaned, you cooked, you did part-time jobs, you were and are everything the members could have asked for in a leader. But despite a 6-years age gap between you and next oldest member, you were more than just their Mom, but also their best friend; you joked, you laughed, and you care deeply for every member. And ofc, on stage, out of all the members, you are probably THE symbol for the sexy concept that Girl's Day is famous for. You possessed a wonderful soulful voice that never got its due next to Minah, and Daisies so thankful that you decided to defy your family so long ago and run away so you can chase after your dream.
Yura: our "balbo" with the figure of a goddess and the personality of a hyperactive teenager (in the best way). The mood setter of the Girl's Day. Thank you Yura for always laughing and smiling, whether it's at Hyeri's antics or at anything really (and ofc, nothing wrong with always laughing when you have the best laugh in Kpop is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H15DrL19ao). Out of all the members, you probably love the group and the members the most. Daisies are so thankful that you turned down FNC's offer and ditch the chance to join AOA and instead accepted Sojin's offer to join Girl's Day, because Girl's Day without you would have a lot more sadness and sorrow.
Minah: our great main vocalist with the cutest of eye-smiles. The mascot and the trailblazer for GsD. Thank you Minah for never giving up on your dreams, for going on every variety show that'd take you and doing whatever they ask, always with a smile on your face, and earning so much unwarranted hate from netizens and stans of other groups of being fake and extra, just so you can put foods on the table and put Girl's Day on the map. Ofc, I can't mention Minah without mentioning her beautiful high notes that you can find in almost every single one of Girl's Day's songs, including one of the most iconic longest high note ever in the criminally underrated "Nothing Last Forever", the song that saved Girl's Day after their terrible debut.
Hyeri: our maknae and one of the most well-known idols to the Korean GP. The energizer of Girl's Day. Thank you Hyeri for always injecting every single environment you're in with just so much happy energy. Thank you for staying grounded even as you shot to fame after your Real Men ageyo and your Reply 1988's breakout role (quick rant: it's kinda funny how Ifans rarely ever remember to count Hyeri as an it-girl even though she was everywhere in Korea in 2015-2017/2018, with 28 (not a typo) CFs in 2016 and 17 CFs in 2017. She was (and to this day the last) the second-ever girl idol to earn the nickname "10-billions won girl" for her CFs from the Korean media. She was more popular than Seolhyun after Reply). Daisies appreciate you so much and is so proud of our maknae for everything she has accomplished, for still keeping a tight friendship with all the members as you stayed the same even as the fame and money came flooding in.
Girl's Day is one of the few girl groups to have all their members known to the Korean GP through their varieties and dramas (something no third gen and later GGs has) (If you don't believe me, you can watch their Knowing Brothers episode and notice that none of them wore a name tag for that episode (Sistar, SNSD, TVXQ, Boa, IU and other famous actors/actresses enjoyed the same privilege in their episodes). In contrast, you know who did have to wear name tag? A selection: Twice, Mamamoo, Gfriend, IZONE, Red Velvet, and more. As KB's audience is more geared toward the general Korean GP, that should be all the proof you need). They're one of the top two icons of the sexy concept, with "Something" being one of the pillars of the sexy concept. But they had a lot more than just Something, with 10+ top 10 Melon hits and 9 top 10 Gaon hits. In 2015-2016, their CF numbers (groups + individual) were only second to SNSD. It's no wonder that at their peak, they were predicted to be the next ruling girl groups along with Sistar and Apink as SNSD and 2NE1 were slowing down.
They are the variety queens, recognized for each member having no problems holding their own on any variety shows (but ofc, they are a fucking mess when they're together and I'm here for it). They are the group that have the closest of friendships where they can literally communicate with each other by just their eyes (no, I'm not exaggerating, if you watch Happy Together or Life Bar episodes where they guest, you'll see what I'm talking about). Thank you Girl's Day for continuously meeting up and giving us pictures even as you're on a "hiatus". You guys will always be my ultimate group and I will forever support you in whatever you do (but please please, give me a comeback someday, please? I will give anything for that).
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2020.09.14 20:31 SaltFishing9 A Christmas Journey. In Prose. Being an Infinity Train/A Christmas Carol Crossover: With apologies to Charles Dickens. Stave 1: The Train From Nowhere.

Belle was gone, to begin with. There could be no more denying that. The temporary heartbreak from which she had walked away that December Afternoon on the outer rim of Hyde Park and that she had assured the unfortunate wretch whom she had, perhaps justifiably, inflicted it upon would be just that, was incomparable to the more permanent trauma which she now bore within her chest, like an accused iron maiden around her soul.
Scrooge was undoubtedly both the cause and the victim of this painful affair, for pain was no more a stranger to him than a mother, ever dutiful by the fireside of a nursery is to her children, fast at rest after experiencing her affection and kindness at play and dining during the hours of the day. Needless to say, the power which Cupid and Venus had held over once two infatuated lovers, Romance, was as dead as a doornail.
Mind! I don't mean to say that I know, of my own knowledge, what there is particularly dead about a door-nail. I might have been inclined, myself, to regard a coffin-nail as the deadest piece of ironmongery in the trade. But the wisdom of our ancestors is in the simile and my unhallowed hands shall not disturb it, or the Country's done for. You will therefore permit me to repeat, in the tragic nature for which it so deserves that, here at least, Romance was as dead as a door-nail.
Scrooge minded that Belle was gone? Of course he did! How could he feel otherwise? For many weeks, the rue of his ''release'' lingered and would reoccur, quite unwelcomed but often regardless. And yet, in all outward verbalisms, as his wife who would never be had so assured him, he had dismissed the event as an unprofitable dream, from which he declared to be truly glad to have awoken from in time, lest domestication and family thereafter descend upon his survival, seeking to be the avatar of his ruination.
For, although a young man in the prime of life, Scrooge had done all to convince himself of the frivolous impracticality of such things as these. His needs, in all departments, were met and well met. These being, to make an account in full, his profits, his trade, his security and his sole friend and partner.
Marley fulfilled this last position to the best of his ability and his work ethic therein had succeeded all of Scrooge's expectations for he was, although two years his senior, in much the same mindset as his younger collaborator in many a matter of the mind, if not, in some forms, the vault. The subject of ''domestic bliss'', however, was no different to Marley than it was to Scrooge. So, therefore, upon Belle's departure, did he gladly rejoice, though with dignified disregard, at what he perceived as Scrooge's ''deliverance from the ball and chain.''
The mention of the lovers' separation brings me to my second point. Much in the way love had perished that day, the man whom Scrooge had been accustomed to being for the past several years, was himself, dead. At some point during his 31 summers, the same event had occurred to Marley, though Scrooge had, out of respect, never sought to divulge the details of the instance from his friend's recollection.
In both cases, neither man sought to revive such deceased personalities. To themselves and, indeed those who had once so proudly professed to know them, the men who had experienced those life-altering occasions, would never again be the men who had so recklessly promenaded into them. This must be distinctly understood, or nothing wonderful can come of the story I am going to relate.
The concern the two had established had been in businesses for but two years by the time I can confess this tale to truly begin. There it sat, in the throbbing commerce heart of The City for years afterwards with the familiar sign above the door: Scrooge and Marley. (The firm was known as Scrooge and Marley.)
From the point of view of more traditional perspectives, it made little sense that the younger of the two should, in any way, have his name placed in higher regard than the elder partner, although it was generally known that it was Scrooge's incalculable cognition of figures and money changing that had brought the firm to such notoriety in so small a space of time. Those with such philosophies, nevertheless, insistently referred to the practice as ''Marley and Scrooge,'' but both men answered to both names. It was all the same to them.
Oh! But they were tight-fisted hands at the grindstone, Scrooge and Marley! The years had seen the nobler aspirations of their salad days die off until, at length, only the master-passion, the master vice, Gain seemed to remain. By degree, they had gradually altered themselves into what the debtor ever fears and that the philanthropist ever pities. Squeezing, wrenching, grasping, scraping, clutching, covetous sinners! Near hard and sharp as flint, which no steel would or could now strike out generous fire, Secret and self-contained and, if not for each other's company, as solitary as oysters.
Naturally, as the eldest, Marley had first succumbed to the ailments of the self that such a life produced as well as that of the soul. The cold within him froze and mismatched his outer appearance to his true age. Sunk his cheeks, dried his lips, beaked his flattened nose and shortened his deep brown hair, to where he now wore the remnants in a familiar pigtail which became, save for his rounded spectacles, as days of hours of working in darkness had mildly affected the use of his eyes, his soul distinguishing trait.
Scrooge's own refrigeration had produced similar alterations as this. His own cheeks were as equally submerged, his eyes red, his thin lips blue, his chin, uncannily pointed at the tip, so that his head near resembled a flattened crescent moon with a blunted top. Upon the wiry, brushed plot of black that covered most of said top was a thin streak of silver, no thicker than a stalk of barley. An emblem of tension and senectitude. Each man carried his own increasingly low temperature always about with him. They iced the office in the dog-days and didn't thaw it one degree at Christmas.
The only indication remaining that the two men were, indeed, members of the same race as those they so often walked past in the streets with their eyes turned down, was that they were still, for the time being, governed by nature's laws. Whilst external Warmth and Chill did little to influence them, foul weather was just this to them as it was to all of humanity. Bitter winds and falling snow remained more intent on their purposes than they and yet, the prevailing fear among all was that, with the coming of their winters, the Heaviest rain and snow would boast of the advantage over them in only one respect. They often "came down" handsomely, and Scrooge and Marley never did.
The usurious and withdrawn reputation of the dyad soon proceeded them. Nobody ever stopped them in the street to say, with gladsome looks, "My dear Scrooge, how are you? And you as well, Marley my good fellow! When will you both come to see me?" Few beggars implored them to bestow a trifle, few children asked them what it was o'clock, few men or women ever once in all their life inquired the way to...such and such a place, of Scrooge or Marley. In truth, the only minute difference that either man had against the other, was in terms of spending.
Whilst Scrooge firmly and unflaggingly took as gospel the notion of making one's fortune and keeping it by way of what he viewed as ''logical meagerness,'' at times to the extent of near malnourishment and hypothermia, due to the piteous fires at his own lodgings, Marley was, although hardly benevolent, more prone to selfish indulgence to a certain degree. He indulged in certain sins of gluttony and of the flesh whenever the urge took him, and paid little mind to those outside who scavenged the ashcans for a crust of bread.
While some may regard these distinctions as that which would inevitably rend asunder the fabric of such a friendship, Scrooge shared too many an opinion with his older companion to truly take offence and while he, at times, would feel compelled to make some offhand judgment over Marley's ''Flirtation with Flavour,'' these times were few and often forgotten.
Once upon a time— a week and a day from all the good days in the year, Christmas Eve—Scrooge sat busy in the counting-house, awaiting the return of Marley from his customary journey to Capel Court.
It was cold, biting weather, yet bright with fading sunlight and he could hear the people in the court outside, go wheezing up and down, beating their hands upon their breasts, and stamping their feet upon the pavement stones to warm them. The city clocks had only just gone three, though owing to the shortened days of winter, the sky was already beginning to turn amber and ruddy with the setting of the sun.
As was customary, the signs of winter evergreen with its pinecones and berries, the holly, ivy and mistletoe, had been hung early in honour of the blessed day and all about could be seen signs of play, glad tidings and goodwill as the light from the fading day flowed generously through the windows of neighbouring offices, as if peach cider being poured into a goblet of crystal. But Scrooge paid this little heed. His eyes, squinted from want of blinking, were, like his nose, lost in a series of open ledgers upon his desk, which he eyed with an expression of impatience and pique.
His own office possessed a small window of iron bars with small holes at the base for the changing of money, from which Scrooge might keep his eye upon the Bookkeepers as well as the Head Clerk. In the case of the former, there were 10 in total, some old, some young, some with families some without, all with their noses deep in their registries while the Clark, a young, short, willowy lad of 19 years, who sat nearby them in a dismal little cell above, a sort of tank, was copying letters. There were two coal boxes between both employer and employee.
Both were of regular size, yet both fires were so meagre, that the junior clerks, shivering with frost upon their stools, found their ink begin to ice over in their pots, their own fire being so slight that it appeared to be made of but 5 coals.
Scrooge's window gave a commanding view of the Head Clerk, who's own scuttle sat next to his desk. Scrooge and Marley regulated the usage of the coal at all times. The Clerk could not replenish it without the employers' sanction and so surely as the clerk laid hand upon the shovel, the disapproving, iron gaze of the master would instantly cause him such fear for his position as to send him dejectedly back to his books.
The opening of the door and the purl of the brass bell altered Scrooge to the return of Marley from his chore. Past the staff he strode, never giving them so much as a wish for the upcoming season. Under his arm, he carried sought after financial tabloids, obtained from his return journey, which he brought into the counting-house before roughly laying them upon the table before the younger partner.
"The Exchange is closing on the 24th early, I hear.'' This the elder said as he sat at his place at the table, facing the younger. " To "Honour the Season," or so says the Beadle.''
"Bah!" said Scrooge, "Humbug!" He said this last word with such sincerity, did Scrooge, that for a brief flash of time, one could see themselves sympathizing with such a statement.
''Eh?" came the reply. "Which Humbug per-say? The Beadle?''
''Christmas, to be sure!" Said Scrooge with slight indignance, for he had always respected the Beadle and his work with the constabulary, particularly when the lawman's great staff fell upon the unwitting heads of long-overdue debtors. "No doubt the Royal Exchange will follow suit."
"And so it must, by law." Marley reasoned. "But, if you'll forgive me for this point, I do not recall you ever using such language towards Christmas as you have with other festivals."
"I can only regret such a delay," returned the younger man, "with the deepest of remorse! I ask you this, Jacob. What good has Christmas ever done you or I? What is it but a mockery of commercial enterprise? A time for balancing your books and having every item in 'em through a round dozen of months presented dead against you? Look at the staff accounts for yourself and see how near this damned holiday has come to ruin us!"
Saying this he slid across the table the tome detailing staff payment. Marley, without hesitation, began reading the open pages. Upon doing so, his sultana skinned lips drooped, his head shook with the greatest disappointment as a few stay "Tsk tsks" exited through his teeth.
"You see now then?" sneered Scrooge bitterly through closed teeth. "This is what Christmas means to us, my friend! Our Bookkeepers, barely worth their salt, slacking, gossiping idly of personal matters whenever our backs are turned to them, rather than putting their minds to honest imperial capital! Picking our pockets every 25th of December, to top it all! How can we be taken seriously as either Moneylenders or Merchants under such circumstances, I ask you? Humbug!"
"Come now." Replied Marley, with a hint of fright, brought on by his companion's outburst. "My dear Ebenezer. Surely, you don't think I am against you on this point? The mad frivolity and foolishness of the season have always caused me some form of revulsion! The beggars, the devil take them, holding out their hats and ratting their cups, the maddening din of children singing carols at one's doorstep, without invitation to boot! Not to mention, the demand for abundant charity at our expense!"
"And so it shall be always." replied the resigned Scrooge. "'Till a new age of enlightenment dawns upon us. But, back to the matter of the dolts, if I may..."
"Yes! Of course." said Jacob, dutifully. "Perhaps then a reduction in staff, a streamlining if you will, is overdue? I suppose it is so. As you say, we have been taken advantage of." he added, taking from his own inkpot a pen of modernity and putting the bib to a blank, lined sheet. Doing so, he tapped the side of his hooked nose with the end of the stylus, his thin eyebrow arching, causing him to appear both interesting and interested all at once. "Hmm, yes. What say you then, Ebenezer? A half reduction in staff? No? Perhaps only a third reduction will be necessary?"
"99.9% reduced." corrected Scrooge coldly, in such a tone as to cause Marley's pen to fall silent. "All excused, save for one."
"Cratchit?" enquired his elder tradesman.
"Cratchit." confirmed the younger. His eyes cast a glance beyond the barred window, where the young Cratchit, Head of the Clerks, was dutifully continuing his work at a record pace, almost as if in a dream, as the bookkeepers slowly and meticulously toiled whilst speaking of the blessed day ahead. "There!" said Scrooge with hushed determination. "Out there upon that stoop sits the key to our relief! An idiot he may be, but in mind, he's as old and wise as we shall be in 10 years. You were wise, Jacob, to bring him on as you did. I see this now and I apologize for ever doubting you."
"Dear Scrooge." reassured Marley. "There was never anything to forgive. I admit I had mild doubts to start with myself. Of course, the boy could easily keep this business in continuation long after we are gone, and I have spoken to him on this subject many times, yet he possesses no desire to take our places. Curious, isn't it?"
"Yet," Scrooge quickly countered, "He's precise, quick and rarely questions. As loyal as a dog and with half the intellect. He needs no underlings and requires no other company than our own. Why, he alone could easily handle the numbers and juggle the books for many a year solitarily. Let us keep that which is needed and endeavour to do without the dead weight!" Saying this he took a pen which had, by no deliberation, been left out to dry and dunked it back into it's well with such force, that Marley was almost ceased by the urge to cup his hands around it, less it smash on impact with the nib.
"First-rate!" said he with a nod of false wisdom. "Now then, are there any other...''
But his sentence was stifled by another clink of the doorbell. This was followed by a small, meek figure of middle-age, curled, brown hair thinning on top and fattish below. So thin and ragged were his clothes, that it might have almost been appropriate to have him brought up on a charge of indecency. He was so timid and so full of stress, this tenant of one of many houses, the title deeds of which the company held so, that as he approached the front desk, the lesser clerks could only hang their heads and say a silent prayer for his divine protection.
"It's Applegate." said Scrooge with an underlying sense of abhorrence. "No doubt seeking to explain his lapse in mortgage payments and obtain another costly delay. Stay put, Jacob. I shall attend to this." The partner gave an understanding nod, as Scrooge rose from his chair slowly, but with intent. Carefully ceasing a simple, yet thick wooden cane from his stand, he opened the door, expressing to the hapless Applegate, in all subtlety, how unwell the older man was met in terms of his lack of payment upon a house he and his family claimed to so cherish.
"Please, Mr Scrooge!" begged the tenant with little hope but with quick delivery. "I know you're very angry about this and I didn't mean to fall behind in the payments. Lord knows, it bein' so close to Christmas n' all. Oh, please don't shout at me, sir!" Scrooge didn't shout. On the contrary! He spoke not a word as he began to gently lead Applegate by the scruff of his coat, away from the desk, past the two rows of clerks, past the solemn Cratchit and towards the front door. "That and, of course," continued to desperate Applegate, "Little Gwen. Her lungs aren't right. The Doctor takes his share, don't 'ee? I mean you can yell and scream and, of course, you're right, but it won't do no good! 'Cause I'm the stone you can't squeeze blood from and that's the..."
His last word, that being "Truth", was cut short as Scrooge, with a passion, deposited him outside and slammed the door in his face. And yet, this poor man, Applegate, filled as he was with Christmas Spirit, still saw it fit to thank his Landlord and Creditor for not raising his voice to him. Upon marching back towards the Counting Office, said Creditor heard the voice of Cratchit, raised in early but glad Christmas greeting towards the unfortunate debtor. "There's another fellow," muttered Scrooge; upon reentering the hole. "Our clerk, with thirteen shillings a week, a widowed mother and engaged to a girl without a Half Crown to her name, talking about a Merry Christmas. I'll retire to Bedlam."
"You are quite still sane, I think." reassured Marley, who now, perhaps from the lateness of the day was, himself, sounding quite tired of these affairs. "Now, as I was saying before we were so rudely interrupted, is there any further business I should be aware of?''
"Indeed there is then." replied Scrooge, retaking his seat. "You are aware, I hope, of the situation regarding the auctioning of the Fezziwig Savings Bank's main warehouse?"
"How could I not?" came the answer. "It seems but only yesterday that you and I left our apprenticeship there to start all of this. I was not the least bit surprised to hear of the bank's bankruptcy after Old Fezziwig's death. It was only a matter of time, given his foolish ways."
"As I well recall," said Scrooge, "It was you, Jacob, who was quick to point out how reckless Fezziwig's addiction to charity was to us in the long term."
"And rightfully so!" cried Marley with great pride. "In truth, I dare say that his soft weak brain and soft heart left more accounts overdue than paid than any other venture in the city! Ruination was a judgment upon him. I am grateful, Ebenezer, that I was able to persuade you to join me in taking our leave from his asylum of future paupers before it was too late."
"Be that as it may," Scrooge said with concern. "there currently sits in the East End a barely maintained warehouse going cheap. For the changing of money, it holds no value, but I have come into possession of a great quantity of meat from an abattoir in Essex. With the right refrigeration and storage, we can easily make it of use to us. I've prepared a bid for the Auction already, but with your wise advice in business matters, I believe we can secure the building without fail."
During the detailing of his plan, Marley remained seated. Not speaking, but silently nodding and grunting with interested affirmation, as if an emperor on his throne, hearing the light of some lesser aristocrat for he did, after all, quite value what little seniority he held over Scrooge. "I also hear," he said at length, "that you are not the only interested party determined to lay hands on the property."
Scrooge slowly gazed up at his friend with slight annoyance, as if he had been dreading this item of conversation since the occasion of the upcoming sale had been brought up. "Are you referring to the big planned by Belle Fezziwig, per-chance?" he inquired slowly.
"I do."
"What of it?" snapped Scrooge, somewhat defensively. "It matters little to me, I assure you, if you somehow believe I have any consideration left for her."
"Of course not." soothed Marley. "I mention it only that it comes to mind just now. No doubt, she intends to revive the old family ways, for women-owned businesses are, I hear, quite fashionable nowadays, provided the woman is unmarried, of course."
"She intends," barked Scrooge correctively, "to continue the self-destructive policies of her father. That which has left her without inheritance. Foolish girl! Humbug to her as well! No doubt, she sees the bank as her birthright. Regardless, she must and will be corrected!"
"And we shall be the firm hands that do so!" finished Marley with a thump to the table. "Shall we deal with both affairs tonight?"
"Here?"
"At my own chambers." Marley insisted. "As they are closer to here than your apartment and more well lit than the counting-house. I take it you have an ideal date for the booting of the excess staff?"
"The 25th of this month, as it happens." replied Scrooge with hushed finality. Then, in a grotesque bid for humour, he added. ''Owing to the season, shall we send off the severance in Christmas Cards?"
A sly and wicked grin crossed Marley's face as this was uttered. "A braver move," said he, mock poetically "was never made on such a "Holy" Season."
To this, naturally, Scrooge answered with yet another "Bah!" before following once more with "Humbug." But this he said, not only quietly so as not to be heard, but with a cold, hollow smirk. It was as if, in that instance, the Devil had taken them both in his grip, with little intention of giving either man any form of release.
Time passed on. Soon, the spirit of evening herself made her grand but silent entrance with her star drenched, glittering cloak to banish the sun entirely with gentle persuasion and so, with her arrival, came the fog. So thick it was that people ran about with flaring links, proffering their services to go before horses in carriages, and conduct them on their way. The ancient tower of a church, whose gruff old bell was always peeping slily down at the moneylenders out of a Gothic window in the wall, became invisible, and struck the hours and quarters in the clouds, with tremulous vibrations afterwards as if its teeth were chattering in its frozen head up there.
The cold became intense. In the main street, at the corner of the court, some labourers were repairing the gas-pipes, and had lighted a great fire in a brazier, round which a party of ragged men and boys were gathered: warming their hands and winking their eyes before the blaze in rapture. The water-plug being left in solitude, its overflowings sullenly congealed, and turned to misanthropic ice.
The brightness of the shops where holly sprigs and berries crackled in the lamp heat of the windows, made pale faces ruddy as they passed. Poulterers' and grocers' trades became a splendid joke: a glorious pageant, with which it was next to impossible to believe that such dull principles as bargain and sale had anything to do. The Lord Mayor, in the stronghold of the mighty Mansion House, gave orders to his fifty cooks and butlers to keep Christmas as a Lord Mayor's household should; and even the little tailor, whom he had fined five shillings on the previous Monday for being drunk and bloodthirsty in the streets, stirred up tomorrow's pudding in his garret, while his lean wife and the baby sallied out to buy the beef. All the while, Scrooge and Marley waited with patience for the hour of shutting to make itself known.
Soon enough, this hour came and upon the bitter admittance of this from their masters, the unsuspecting Bookkeepers happily relayed the proclamation to their gracious leader. Soon, all was a buzz as the grabbing of coats, hats and canes comenced in earnest, Bob Cratchit, naturally, supervised all as the employees made ready the work of closing up. Bob, seizing his own hat and coat, ever eager to return home to his widowed mother to talk of the day's events and discuss, at great length, the upcoming Christmas season with his beloved Emily, was most eager of all that the job should be done ahead of time.
"Your work this week has been somewhat exceptional, Cratchit." Scrooge said unemotionally, approaching the head clerk. "No doubt, I shall have no choice before long but to raise your salary by two shillings."
The Clerk smiled. The employer didn't.
"No doubt, your standing within the company should be raised also." added Scrooge.
"I would hope not to be promoted too soon, sir." The Clerk responded, nervously, praying he did not sound ungrateful. "I might be quick to forget where I came from. Mr. Marley has often stated..."
"Mr, Marley and I have discussed this." interrupted Scrooge with deadpan disinterest. "You shall be keeping your current employment with the firm. It's your position itself that will be raised in importance, though I cannot explain the full details to you at this time." The clerk professed that he understood that his master had his reasons for such secrecy, whatever they may be. Needless to say, he was also quick to express his gratitude afterwards, unaware of both Scrooge and Marley's true intentions in the matter. Following this exchange, the two owners left with younger trailing behind older and then, when on the wider streets, side by side, departed without so much as a "Good Night" to their faithful workers.
The office was cleared within minutes. All of the lesser clerks gladly wished their head an early Merry Christmas before going on their way to wait ever impatiently for the day to arrive. Some had still a great deal of purchases to enact for both gifts of the heart and feasts of the stomach. Others, wiser and more readily prepared than the younger and more lackadaisical of their workmates, returned home to try for eight days more to resist the temptations of gluttony for the sake of the Saviour's birthday celebrations and instead, pay more the little attentions to the families they had longed for the whole day.
Others still, on their way to either of these aforementioned tasks of the heart, found themselves gloriously tricked into being children again either by tempting ice slides, helping with the construction of snowmen, or quickly becoming unsuspecting soldiers in a battle of snowballs.
Bob Cratchit himself, did as I have described previously and at once was off like a shot to where he and his dear mother lived in their poor, but warm abode in Camden Town, where he soon made plans for his marriage to his beloved, due the upcoming Spring.
Scrooge and Marley took their usual dinner at their usual Inn, whist pouring over the Newspapers, both Financial and Informative. But Scrooge's mind or cares could not have been more removed from either his meal or the goings-on abroad, for his concentration was firmly locked upon the matter of the Fezziwig Warehouse and the Auction, among other matters.
I must, therefore, ask you to recall, if you can, that Scrooge had done all in his own power to remove the phantasm of Belle Fezziwig, his former master's eldest daughter and his former fiance from his haunted memory. This, as you may well have discerned from him and Marley's earlier discussion, had failed miserably and Scrooge was no more telling the truth to his partner when he'd stated that Belle's daily life meant nothing to him now than if he had declared that Cheese was a breed of Rhinoceros that dwelled at the Bottom of the Ocean.
In truth, it was Scrooge's desperation to escape the memory of his own regret that had been the cause of his shifted behaviour. It had all to do with a comment Belle had made regarding his past self and driven by a dangerous combination of spite and pride to separate said past self from his current state, in much the way as the great outlaws of Sherwood are reported to have been driven by both patriotism and honour to victimize the rich, he now sought to inflict the same humiliation on Belle in the name of less noble ends and intentions. What better way then, than by spiriting away Belle's birthright and make doubly sure that in the eyes of not only her but himself and all others, that he was, after all, quite the irredeemable, underhanded miser.
Undoubtedly, it was this surge of ill will that had strengthened his resolve to dismiss his bookkeepers, as while Scrooge had, in the past, been reasonably lenient and, perhaps in his own mind, Kind and even soft-hearted towards them, in spite of the cold attitude he displayed outwardly, their removal from his life would surely alienate himself further from Belle and thus, his own foolish youth. Soon, he would have security of the mind as well as from the bailiff. Yet, even now, Scrooge felt a sense of dread that perhaps, in some way, things were not to work out as he would like.
The fog of the evening was darkened more-so by the coming of night. Making their way past begger women and a group of young boys singing carols at them, the two men made their way from the tavern to Marley's dismal chambers. A lowering pile of building up a yard it was, where it had so little business to be, that one could scarcely help fancying it must have run there when it was a young house, playing at hide-and-seek with other houses, and forgotten the way out again.
Despite this, the suite was not as gloomy as one would think it to be, owing to Marley not being as unreasonably thrifty as Scrooge. So, he walked ahead, due to having the only key to both the iron gate which stood like an enormous, black sentry in defence of the dwelling and the house itself, while Scrooge, with vengeful self-reinvention still firmly on his mind, lagged behind in the courtyard.
The fog by now was so heavy, that he was forced to grope with his hands to find his way around. No easy feat to be sure, and it was certainly this that caused him to overlook a small stone in the far right-hand side of the yard, which sent him tumbling to the ground and the account books which had been holding and that held therein the rough draft of his plans for the warehouse purchase as well as the blank pages to relay the matters of termination, tumbling through the air before landing in a mound of snow.
Upon hearing his friend's cry and fall, Marley looked over with the full intention of helping Ebenezer to his feet. He quickly drew back at once though, upon seeing the near demonic anger upon Scrooge's own face that caused his triangular chin to seem like some sort of triangular dagger of skin and bone.
A lesser man might have flown into a violent rage at such an indignity, but Scrooge held strong, suppressed the passionate emotions as he squeezed his eyes tightly shut and breathed heavily through his teeth. All the while, his enraged mind thinking up newer and more callous acts on which he would perpetrate upon his customers and it was within the instance where Scrooge was about to strike a pile of snow, imagining it to be the face of Applegate, as he was never one to strike a woman, that the event occurred.
Now, it is a fact that Marley's home was located at a fair distance from the nearest railway station. This being at a time where the companies lacked the permission to penetrate through either the West End or The City itself. Locally, the nearest convenience was to be found at Euston a borough away.
It is also a fact that, even if this was not the case, no director or Cheif Engineer in existence would be so grasped by lunacy, as to have tracks placed through the streets of the city itself, let alone across a gentleman's courtyard. Let it also be borne in mind that both men were, in most cases, possessed of as much health mentally as you or I, (this I say with the hope that you are as described, as a mind is a woeful thing to lose) and then let any man explain to me, if he can, how it happened that as Scrooge was about to perform assault on the lesser elements, that suddenly and without warning, in a flash of mellow light and seemingly out of the Aether, both he and Marley heard the unmistakable sound of a train passing right by their ears!
Scrooge let out a scream, half of panic half of confusion and scrambling away from the clattering and ringing behind him, found both himself and Marley staring wide-eyed and open-mouthed in awe at, as ludicrous as it may sound, a long line of railway carriages in the street outside the yard!
To those more enthusiastic about the composition of railways and their traction than this aetherial event, I will describe, with goodwill, these coaches to the best of my ability. They were, in all appearance, of London and North Western origin. 4 wheeled and Standard. Boxy in design and cream painted above with the usual Maroon below. What so set them apart from their brothers and indeed, what made the men so fearful of them was that from their narrow windows, a dismal green light, like that from a bad lobster in a dark cellar, shone through with such intensity that the passengers within, if passengers there were, could not be seen from a distance, or up close.
Upon thinking about said occupants, Scrooge's heart quickly skipped a beat in horror. He may have grown cold to man's destitution, but he was not so cruel in conscience as to be unaffected by such a seeming disaster as this! Yet, when he came towards the train, expecting to see the houses on the right side of the street damaged or reduced to rubble, he instead discovered, to his own astonishment, that rather than having demolished the neighbourhood, the train had seemingly melded into it, as if it had been built into the street itself. Not even the dirty gravel road beneath its axels had been the least bit disturbed.
Stranger still, this train had been travelling at a pace faster than any had known to history and yet, in spite of this incredible record-breaking feat, the engine that had performed it and was so richly deserving of a royal banner from Her Majesty herself, was not to be found. Indeed, as Marley joined the trembling form of his partner at the open gate, both men looked left and right, but could see nothing but the carriages, stretching on seemingly into infinity. The men gaped at it in terror and wonder. It was as if the world has been turned on its head and all sanity had been, conceptually, abolished.
"I-it's Humbug!" stammered the unnerved Scrooge as he closed his eyes and shook his head to try and rid his vision of the apparition of the train. "I-I cannot believe it! We mustn't believe it, Marley! Do you hear me? We mustn't believe!"
"But I do..." whispered Marley fearfully shaking his head, eyes wide as if his mind was slowly unwinding into madness. "I must. You can see it also, can you not, Ebenezer? How can we doubt our senses when both faced with this?"
"Talk sense, Man!" Cried Scrooge attempting to slam shut the gate and finding, much to his chagrin and fear that by powers far beyond his own, he could not. "This is nothing more than a shared hallucination, most likely brought on by the stress of dealing with our moronic clientele! Perhaps compounded with a disorder of the stomach! This..."train" might be an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, a crumb of cheese, a fragment of an underdone potato. There's more of Raisin than of Rail about this, whatever it is!"
Marley turned his head to look at Scrooge. His features now chilled, not by avarice, but by horror. He now suspected the train to be some sort of sign that they had not made it to his home alive and that this express had come to ferry them to the rings of perdition. Now, he was grasped with the fear that Scrooge's ill-timed decision to crack a joke had offended whatever force was driving it and that their serviced journey would be nearly as torturous as the destination and therefore, most likely Parliamentary.
But how much greater was his horror when, as if blasted by a sudden arctic gale, the iron gate was pushed asunder, sending the men backwards as, without the aid of any visible porter, the middle door of the middlemost carriage swung violently open! This was quickly proceeded by a small, crude block of wooden steps that, held on by latches, fell from the doorway to the street with a dull thud. Unlike the illuminations beyond the windows, the door revealed nothing but pitch darkness and nothing else.
The first and foremost instinct of both men, as it very well might have been your own, was to attempt to run from this unknown transportation to the safety of the house behind them, though Scrooge showed this less-so than his terrified partner, although his expression had now altered to one of noticeable worry. Yet, as both men stared into the mysterious light of the doorway, a crazed resolve possessed them both. It purged them of fear and of common sense, leaving behind only child-like curiosity in its wake.
With their mental barriers and will removed, the men found themselves walking, as if in a trance, out of the yard, across the street and up the wooden stairs towards the blackness of the open doorway. For a brief microcosm of a moment, there was an instance where Marley, who was in front of Scrooge and whose feet were on the top step, regained his senses and might have attempted to jump from the block and run down the street screaming into the mist, had it not been that in that instance, the pure darkness within the corridor was rapidly replaced, in all sides but the centre, by a vortex of pure light that, as if the horn of Gabriel sent to call the faithful and unfaithful up to the final judgement, transcended the boundaries of its domain, leapt upon he who stood with the ferocity of a snake and, with a sharp squeal, dragged him by hideous vacuum into the recesses of the coach!
At last, Scrooge's outward courage fell away upon witnessing this nightmarish sight! He screamed out Marley's name in fear and despair and with tears forming in his eyes, he attempted to turn and flee from the railless abomination. All too soon, he found it impossible to do so, as the vortex dragged him, stumbling, up the stairs and through the doorway. In desperation, Scrooge grabbed with his right hand the edge of the door while his left shot towards the handle of its neighbour!
There he was, trapped in the iron grip of a force unknown to man, with the familiar world he had so taken for granted out of reach! I cannot begin to tell you what jumbled, bizarre thoughts of confusion went through Scrooge's mind, for in the space of only three seconds, his grip gave way and with a terrifying scream of pure, primal fear, uttered only by the shaking sinner upon his death-bed, Ebenezer Scrooge found himself hurtling through light for but a brief moment, before, in the next, all fell once more to darkness!
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2020.09.14 10:24 Davidgogo A detailed explainer “Why Quran and not Hadith?” Part I

The objective of the write-up is neither to insult the companions of the Prophet of God nor to question what was said by the Messenger. This is a fact-based analysis of the claims made in the name of the Prophet of God.
Primary document Quran
Islam is a continuation of earlier monotheistic faiths, as detailed in the obsequious primary document Quran. It has no central religious authority, no rite of passage and no official clergy, no official calendar, no official symbol, and no official dress. Just one 100% internally verifiable look-up book, the Quran.
Let us start with the premises that are rooted in the Quran, our Al Furqan, "The Criterion".
Quran is the undisputed primary source of our Deen. Quran itself is the explanation and above all, God's preemptive use of the very same terms the sectarians use for their sources as a warning. God describes the Quran as the "Best Hadith" Quran 39:23 and the "Best Tafsir" Quran 25:33 Let us not settle for less than the best that God has to offer.
This whole sectarian mess can be traced to the curse of "different interpretations". Quran cannot be interpreted differently if one were to stick to the Quranic guidelines of how to interpret the verses of the Quran found in the Quran itself.
Islam is the ultimate do it yourself religion both on an individual level and a community level. Islam is definitely not based on "reviews" of others, it is all about research and understanding of God's words directly, using the God-given faculties of observation, reason, and logic. Failing to do so opens the possibility of being declared less than ‘cattle’ by God Himself.
Unlike the third parties review methodology, the reason and logic methodology have a huge advantage; besides the only methodology sanctioned in the Quran itself (in fact, detailed foolproof guidelines of interpretation of the Quran are embedded in the Quran as one would expect from a Divine message) anybody, Muslim or non-Muslim who uses these embedded guidelines will arrive at the same conclusion unless one breaks the established rules of logic, sound research, and rational thought.
Since man has a forgetful nature, a few reminders. Let us start out by reminding ourselves how God in His own words describes the basis of knowledge;
7:52 "For We had certainly sent to them a Book based on knowledge, which We explained in detail (Arabic: fasalnahu), a guide and a mercy to all who believe"
Now let us remind ourselves what it is that will stand abandoned when all is said and done.
25:30 "And the Messenger will say: O my Lord! my people deserted this Quran." Notice only the Quran is mentioned here.
God's most powerful Declaration:
Before enforcing and/or accepting other than the Quran as a source of our Deen let us see the manner in which God affixes His stamp on the Quran in the most powerful manner.
" ..."What thing is greatest in testimony?" Say, " Allah is witness between me and you. And this Qur'an was revealed to me that I may warn you thereby ..." Quran 6:19
And since Quran is our Furqan, hence, any claim of additional Wahi (revelation) will have to match this level of endorsement in clear terms before it can be accepted as Wahi. Needless to say, nothing comes even close.
The sectarian claims that the messenger of God was given wisdom (separate) and additional revelations other than the Quran doesn't solve their issue. Once God declared that Quran is the Best Hadith 39:23, the Best Tafsir 25:33, is fully detailed 6:114, is complete 6:115 and that the verses of the Quran are already in an explained state 17:12, it stands to reason that the claimed God-given wisdom of the messenger and/or additional revelations will mirror and fortify all these declarations of God and not weaken them.
Real sayings of the Messenger of God
And let us refresh our memories a bit more and review what God instructs the Prophet of God to say repeatedly in the Quran;
The real authorized sayings of the Prophet of God:
  1. “ …….. I only follow what is revealed to me (إن أتبع إلا ما يوحى إلي)…… “ Quran 10:15
  2. “ …….. I only follow what is revealed to me (إن أتبع إلا ما يوحى إلي)…… “ Quran 46:9
  3. “ …….. I only follow what is revealed to me (إن أتبع إلا ما يوحى إلي)…… “ Quran 6:50
  4. “ …….. Only I follow what is revealed to me (إنما أتبع ما يوحى إلي) ……” Quran 7:203
The repeated use of (إنما) and (إلا) in the above verses leaves no room for anything other than what is Revealed in the Quran to be followed; “doing more” than what is revealed is not an option. God perfected the Deen. Adding to or subtracting from perfection renders it imperfect. Besides Quran 7:203-204 only restricts the listening to the Quran, so, if there were additional revelations then these verses would be either expanded to include other than the Quran or not necessary to begin with.
Then this:
Say, "Of your 'partners' is there any that can lead you to the Truth?" Say, "Allah leads to the Truth. So, who is more worthy of being followed? The One Who shows you the Way or he who finds no way unless he is guided? What is amiss with you? How do you judge?" Quran 10:35
So now, should you follow the guided Prophet or directly follow the ONE who was doing the guiding?
Additional Revelations issue
Allow me to address the additional Revelations issue in greater detail since it is related. The changing of the Qaba, the incident of the honey, the cutting of the palm tree and a few others are all routinely used out of context, along with the bit about the Hikma, to try and prove that the Prophet of God received Revelations in addition to the "official" Revelations in the form of the Quran.
Needless to say, we need to exclusively follow these very same revelations for which the messenger of God is on record to have publicly declared them as revelations. Let us also take in the severity of failure to deliver the complete message. If the messenger of God had failed to deliver the message as per God's extremely strict instructions, verbatim and publicly announcing them, God would have killed him by severing his aorta.
This obviously excludes any additional claims of revelations by third parties, even if the claims are ascribing them to any messenger of God-especially single third-party narrators paraphrasing such claims as opposed to a public declaration where a large number of witnesses would have been present and they too would have been on record testifying to the very same claim, preferably in a verbatim manner.
Additionally, it is clear from several verses that the revelations were in defined Surahs (chapters) and not loosely scattered reports. Quran 47:20 for one.
Furthermore, the messenger of God was made to say that his recitation of the Quran was for guidance and nothing else was mentioned. Continuing from the previous verse:
And to recite the Qur'an." And whoever is guided is only guided for himself; and whoever strays - say, "I am only of the warners." Quran 27:92
Similarly, using selective Quranic verses to try and justify the indefensible position that whatever the Messenger said were all revelations doesn't add up. If that was so, then in those instances where God corrected the messenger, was God actually correcting Himself? An absurd notion to begin with. ref. Quran 9:43, 80:1-10, 66:1. But that is the beauty of the Quran. Whenever attempts are made to sneak falsehood into it, this invariably results in easily spotted contradictions, a touchstone we cannot thank God enough for.
The following two verses are a clear case in point yet again. There is no difference between the obedience of God and the obedience of His messenger.
  1. "O you who believe! obey Allah and His Messenger and do not turn back from Him while you hear" 8:20 2. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger and transgresses His limits - He will put him into the Fire to abide eternally therein, and he will have a humiliating punishment. Quran 4:14
In both the above verses, it is clear that the words to be heard and the limits both belong to God, the clear use of the singular (عَنْهُ) in 8:20 and (حُدُودَهُ) in 4:14 leaves no doubt whatsoever. If there were more than one disobedience by turning away or more than one limit, then here is where God would have separated them for our understanding.
Hence, the easiest way to obey the messenger is to exclusively follow what the messenger exclusively followed, nothing more nothing less. Because what he followed and what was revealed to him to recite as a guidance were all in Surah form and God collectively labeled these publicly proclaimed revelations as the Quran and declared Himself as the witness over it.
In light of the clear arguments from the Quran, our Furqan, it is time that all Muslims should fire their respective sect leaders and then follow it up with denouncing all sects. Islam is what the Quran says it is and pointing out this all-important fact does not make anybody a Quranist or Ahl al-Kalam or a Hadith rejector, whatever that means.
Just to be clear this is not something new, as the sectarians would want you to believe. This issue can be traced back to the exact same era when Hadith were illegitimately elevated from mere historical records to religious scriptures. In fact, Al-Jahiz is on record to have called the Haithers Al-nabita, the contemptible. This from the guy who beat Charles Darwin on evolution by over a 1000 years. No wonder the Mutazili theologians were ostracized by the usual suspects.
Imam Shafi is on record to debate with Muslims who objected to other than the Quran as a source of Deen in the eighth century. This is recorded by Imam Shafi in his Jima`al-`Ilm. In fact, both Al-Shafi'i and Ibn Qutayba refer to those Muslim opponents of the Hadith as Ahl al-Kalam. Al-Shafii's work responded to this group that rejected all claims in the Hadith literature. The argument of those Muslims was based on the same Quranic facts that Muslims today use, that God declares the Quran as an explanation of everything (16:89). Rejecting Ahad (based on third-party single narrators) is in no way an insult to the Prophet of God. In fact, rejecting impossible to verify claims in the name of the Prophet of God is the duty of every faithful.
By the way, over 99% of all Ahadith are Ahad.
To cut to the chase, the logic is simple and clearly laid out in the official message of God in no uncertain terms; the sects want to impose their own laws on people, God on the other hand categorically forbid believers from Judging (يحكم) by anything other than what was Revealed (أنزل). To ensure that whatever was Revealed was actually delivered publicly, God instructs the messenger to do exactly that (بلغ) announce/convey/proclaim/deliver the Revealed (أنزل) message. Whatever was not publicly conveyed and declared as a Revelation by the messenger should not be taken as a basis for judging because doing so will render one as a disbeliever (كافر).
Please read that last sentence again.
Hence, there may or may not have been communication between God and His Prophets other than the official message like the Quran, but our focus must be on what was explicitly declared by the Prophet of God to be the revelation. God communicates with His Prophets or for that matter with ordinary human beings as is indicated in the Quran. In fact, the Quran is clear that God communicates with all His creations even innate objects like heavenly bodies, the Earth and the Moon are mentioned, among others.
But here is the thing, the Wahi that is intended as a guide or injunctions for us as human beings and Jinn etc is in fact clearly defined in the Quran and was delivered publicly by the messenger and declared as Wahi. God stamped it by announcing that God Himself is the witness to the revelation of the Quran.
In short, if it is not in the Quran, please don't call it Islam.
Here are the relevant verses;
Indeed, We sent down the Torah, in which was guidance and light. The prophets who submitted [to Allah] judged by it for the Jews, as did the rabbis and scholars by that with which they were entrusted of the Scripture of Allah, and they were witnesses thereto. So do not fear the people but fear Me, and do not exchange My verses for a small price. And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed then it is those who are the disbelievers. Quran 5:44
and
O Messenger, announce (بَلِّغْ) that which has been revealed to you from your Lord, and if you do not, then you have not conveyed His message. And Allah will protect you from the people. Indeed, Allah does not guide the disbelieving people. Quran 5:67
To further elaborate on this all-important issue, in order for it to be classified as a Revelation, it is necessary for it to be announced, a public act by definition as demonstrated by the use of the word (بَلِّغْ) and the context elsewhere in the Quran. Quran 7:61-62. and 7:67-68 and 46:23. And this announcement must be done by the messenger himself and he must declare it to be a Wahi for it to become part and parcel of the official message. It is certainly not left to any third party(s) to deduce from his actions or inactions.
In order to settle the matter of a public announcement in the above verse, God comforts the messenger of God not to worry about public declarations of the Revelation to the people because God will protect you from the people. The mention of the people here and all the related verses buries assigning any value to a single narrator, which will be 99.9% of Hadith literature as previously mentioned, which is the actual number. It especially negates claims of where it was supposedly communicated in private.
In addition, a single narrator's claim that it was made in Public is by definition problematic. Interestingly, 100% of the so-called Qudsi Ahadith falls into this latter category. Furthermore, there is no provision for implied or deduced Revelation on the basis of not being able to come up with an "explanation" for a particular verse. Nor does declaring something other than the officially revealed as "additional Revelations" under the disguise of "explanations" have any merit. The "best" explanation of God is just that, the best.
Why is this extremely important? Because if one were to use anything other than the Revealed word of God, as defined in the Quran, to judge others, then in God's own words, as pointed out in the above verse and worth repeating here:
" ........ And whoever does not judge by what Allah has revealed then it is those who are the disbelievers". Quran 5:44
Imagine that !!!
That automatically takes care of what Obey the messenger means yet again. In fact not making the Revelation as the sole basis of Sharia is an option that cannot be ignored, If one were to venture out and actually judge others on anything other than the Revealed message then that will turn one into a disbeliever, as the verse above declares. The seriousness of the issue is further cemented in the subsequent verses by adding wrongdoers and the defiantly disobedient to the mix. This was true of those who received Revelations before us, and it is the same for us.
Please read and reflect on the verses from Quran 5:44 till 5:69 to fully understand the fundamental principles of Revelations.
Of course, there are many more relevant verses but the above is a very quick way of settling the counterclaims of the sect scene.
No Muslim in their right mind rejects Hadith if by the new and un-Quranic meaning of Hadith one means sayings of the Prophet of God. But any claim in the name of the Prophet of God must be evaluated in light of the message of God he delivered himself. As per the Quran, we will be labeled as liars if we fail to back our claims with four upright witnesses even for a social claim, let alone those claims that have a direct bearing on the message of God.
The sect games, of course, quote verses devoid of context to promote the indefensible notion that every word that came out of the messenger's mouth was a revelation/inspiration. Except, the seriously wanting claim falls apart when it is pointed out to them that if that was so then when God corrected and even admonishes the messenger for what he said and did, this would mean God was actually correcting Himself. Case in point Quran 80:1-12 Quran 66:1 and others.
Keeping the above verses in mind and yet pushing people towards crude perfectionism in terms of how they should dress or look, what they should eat, how should they pray or indeed what should they say, is the hallmark of oppressors, especially when threats of physical harm are added to the equation.
True perfectionism is the province of God alone and only God can match one's abilities to a way of life focused on love, empathy, mercy and forgiveness, a guaranteed path leading to the freedom of the soul.
We have often seen the message of God diluted and distorted through the various secondary sources courted by these illegal and for-profit sect leaders. Most impartial observers saw through the sophistry of the "scholars" and figured that they were always in on it when it came to distortion of God's words. The reasons for doing so were also very straightforward, in one word "subjugation". From the perspective of these fake scholars, it was always about peer pressure, fear of losing status, fear of losing position; and of course, these, combined with the fear of the emperor were all routine motivations. God specifically warns us about this in clear terms;
CAN YOU, then, hope that they will believe in what you are preaching - seeing that a good many of them were wont to listen to the word of God and then, after having understood it, to pervert it knowingly? Quran 2:75
That brings us to the perverted verses
The practice of quoting truncated verses with the explicit objective to deceive is quite rampant in the sectarian circles. The most widely misquoted verse has to be Quran 59:7 (......" And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad SAW) gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it)......". While there is really no need to go into a lengthy analysis of this obvious deception, the verse is often quoted to justify the unwarranted status given to the Hadith literature. Needless to say, the verse has to do with something completely different, the distribution of war booty.
The verse that needs analysis is one of the other favorites of the Kafirs, Quran 16:44. Here too the verse is not only quoted in part but when pointed out, lame attempts are made to try and dilute an important aspect of the message.
The part that is quoted is:
" ...... that you may explain clearly to men what is sent down to them, ...... ) Quran 16:44
The above translation is from Muhsin Khan. The rendering " explain clearly" is a misdirection. First of all, the word form used is (لِتُبَيِّنَ ), the or bayyinah from the root Ba-Ya-Nun. The sense of the word is to make clear in a way one would do when distinguishing something from another. Where God mentions explaining the Quran, God invariably does so by referring to the verses of the Quran: "We explain the verses" ( نُصَرِّفُ الْآيَاتِ ). Furthermore, as we can see the word often used for "explaining" is from the root Sad-Ra-Fa, in the mood ( مرفوع ). And finally, the fact that God ends the verse with ( لَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ ) " that they may reflect/give thought is significant. Giving thought or to reflect is often downgraded to "consider" aka George Sale.
The verse is not referring to explaining that which was revealed but the reference to making cleaor showing (لتبين), the process and significance of revelations themselves. Hence, the Prophet of God was to point out the significance of this revelation as a whole and the people were then supposed to reflect on the message. This makes even more sense given the mention of earlier scriptures at the beginning of the verses.
And then there is the verse about the prophet of God being an excellent example. Once again, the verse is quoted in part:
"Certainly, you have in the Apostle of God an excellent example ......) Quran 33:21
But they never mention Quran 60:4, where an Identical term is used for Prophet Abraham. The conduct in all three related verses mentioned in Quran 33:21, 60:6 and 60:4 revolves around the belief in God and the Last Day. That is the core value of the example to be followed and not how high your trousers need to be. Or the left foot right foot nonsense.
Besides the above, verses where God reminds us to Obey Him and his messenger, are so far removed from obeying what Bukkhari and co. claim, that it is not worth pursuing the argument in any meaningful way. It is mind-boggling that Quran 4:59 is also used to support Hadith literature. If anything, the mention of people in authority along with God and the messenger points to the fact that all three mean exactly the same thing, God's message is to be obeyed and followed irrespective of who implements it. That brings us to the perverted verses.
Evidence from the Hadith on "worship" of the Prophet
But it is ironic to note that the rank and file always had enough material in their respective sect's literature to give them a wake-up call. And yet we see that almost all the members remain hypnotized by the so-called Sheiks and Imams of these sects. Here is something interesting to share;
Allah says:
- ٱتَّخَذُوٓاْ أَحۡبَارَهُمۡ وَرُهۡبَـٰنَهُمۡ أَرۡبَابً۬ا مِّن دُونِ ٱللَّهِ
"They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their monks as lords besides God ……." [At-Taubah, verse 31]
When Adee Ibn Hatim (radi Allahu 'anhu), who used to be a Christian, heard this verse, he said, 'O Messenger of God. We didn't worship them.' The Messenger of God (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) said, 'Did they not make Haraam what God made Halaal and you listened to them; and they made Halaal what God made Haraam and you followed them? He replied, 'Certainly.
The Prophet of God (sallalalhu alaihi wa-sallam) said, 'THAT was your worship to them.' [At-Tirmidhee (3/247)]
I am not going to endorse the above report as authentic simply because it also fails the criteria of truth as detailed in the Quran, as is the case with over 99% of all Ahadith, but it should not pose any problems for those who eat up anything labeled as "Hadith" or "Sunnah". So, the question is, why can't they connect the dots screaming at them that they should be connected?
The issue of Ahadith
This commentary is in no way questioning the legitimate sayings of the Messenger of God but merely pointing out gaps in the claims of those who are ascribing words to the messenger of God. Let us first clarify how God mentions Sunnah in the Quran.
(1) Sunnatu-lawalina (of the former people) (2) Sunnata-llahi (of God)
That is it, there is no third Sunnah type mentioned in the Quran.
Now, let us have a quick insight into the Ahadith reports, on which the popular Sunnah is based or partly based. The details in the Hadith literature should further clarify matters.
Since the Hadith promoters inexplicably ignored to first classify the Ahadith as Mutawatir (reported a mass) and Ahad (single narrator) before giving them labels as Sahih and Hasan and Daef, a lot of people are unaware of the fact that a full 99.9% of Ahadith, actual number as already mentioned, are basically third-party single narrations. When you add to this the fact that out of the top seven narrators with almost 17,000 reports, (Sunni version) five were teenagers, three out of those five barely making the teen cut and the other two were in their mid-twenties in 632 AD. Just this piece of info should raise alarm bells in any reasonable person's mind.
When we also take into account the strange omission of the Friday Sermons, we are left with gaps that no God-fearing, thinking person can ignore. While the Friday sermon is ubiquitous in the Muslim world today, it may come as a shock to many that out of an estimated thousand or so sermons reportedly delivered by the messenger of God, not a single sermon was committed to memory by any of the thousands of attendees and passed on. Given the scale and reach of these supposedly regular sermons, it is more than strange that the famed memory champions of the time could not manage a single complete sermon so that it could make it into any of the popular collections.
These Friday sermons were the perfect opportunities for the recording of mutawatir reports, as the Quran demands. So, if we were to go with the famed memory champions narrative then it is not at all unreasonable to imagine that they were systematically pruned from all collections. The question is why?
To further understand the sophistry under the slogan of "the Prophet said”, let us quickly point out what is generally agreed regarding the most revered collection.
Bukhari's Ahadith collection was never in a single book form during his lifetime; the present Askalani's collection is based on the commentary of Khushaymani, which in turn is based on the commentary or collection of Firabri who based his collection on some part of Bukhari's collection.
It seems that we should abandon our exclusivity of belief in one God and surrender to a final edit done in the fifteenth century, yes fifteenth not eighth, and start believing in Askalani's collection. Then we must believe that he did his job by choosing, out of 70 odd collections on offer at the time, Khushaymani to be the one, subsequently we must believe that Firabri, a student of Bukhari, did his job and of course, we must continue to believe blindly, that Bukhari did his bit and we must in turn ignore another "great" Muslim, who had trashed a big chunk of Bukhari's collection. All this before we get into the Isnad chain, with hundreds of years passing between collections, commentaries, and Isnads. Is this a joke at our expense?
Since we can make perfect sense of the 28 Surahs that Bukhari "explains" with these words "No Hadith were mentioned here" I am sure we will manage with the rest as well.
Here is the complete list of Surah Bukhari washed his hands of, some explanation; 23, 27, 29, 35, 51, 57, 58, 64, 67, 69, 70, 73, 76, 81, 82, 86, 88, 89, 90, 94, 100, 101, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, and 109
Even in the cases where a particular chapter is dealt with, a very limited set of verses are included in the “explanations”. For example, in the case of Al Baqarah, out of the total 286 verses, only about 50 are mentioned in Bukhari’s collection and the same goes for the rest of the compilers.
Besides, out of the 6348 verses in the Quran, a mere 20 or so can be found referenced as explained in the Hadith literature. So where did this idea originate? And why don't those propagating this obvious misdirection fact check it for themselves?
Ironically, there are Ahadith that rue the fact that the Prophet of God left without explaining some verses. That includes Usury, inheritance, doubtful things etc
Please feel free to explore this issue on your own.
Those who promote the seriously flawed Hadith literature insist that they (or their sect leaders) have verified that "all" of Bukhari and Muslim compilation is beyond reproach (similar claims by other sects). Here we have to raise a relevant question: If the messenger of God himself could not tell the hypocrites from the genuine Sahaba then how did Bukhari and co. manage this impossible feat?
“And from among those who are round about you of the dwellers of the desert there are hypocrites, and from among the people of Medina (also); they are stubborn in hypocrisy; you do not know them; We know them; We will chastise them twice then shall they be turned back to a grievous chastisement” Quran [9:101]
So unless Bukhari and co. had access to voice recordings of the reporters and they were all experts at detecting lies through the tone of their speech - Quran 47:30 says (لحن القول) which is not just speech but the tone of the speech- then there is zero percent chance that they knew. If they were, and they knew, then all the compilations would have been identical.
Ironically, Bukhari's own report clearly points to this fact, especially after the demise of the Messenger of God:
Narrated Anas: The Prophet said, "Some of my companions will come to me at my Lake Fount, and after I recognize them, they will then be taken away from me, whereupon I will say, 'My companions!' Then it will be said, 'You do not know what they innovated (new things) in the religion after you."
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 76, Hadith 584
Lastly, let’s talk numbers.
Even if we lack expertise in a particular domain, one can rationally test the premises upon which a particular discipline is based.
One of the most basic tools available to us is a simple time and motion study. If someone were to claim that he or she just ran around the world unaided in 24 hours one can very easily calculate and prove that it is an impossibility, given the length of distance traveled and the speed a human being can generate while running unaided. Similarly, if the "science of Hadith" is so thorough as claimed, then why is it that the claims don't match the ground reality. Hence when science is applied to the claim of 600,000 Ahadith vetting in a mere 16 years period by Bukhari, the results are at best comical. Not to mention the fact that earlier, another important compiler, Muslim, disputes the authenticity of hundreds of Ahadith declared authentic by Bukhari and refuses to declare them authentic and the other way around. Where is the science in it?
But we are going to focus on the claim of the 600,000 Ghusls and the two rakat that Bukhari performed before embarking on every new Hadith evaluation. The question we are going to ask is; how do you fit 600,000 Ghusls and an equal number of Istikhara prayers into a 16 years time frame? We are not even counting the countless interviews he supposedly did with the narrators and their family and friends, not to mention the traveling. Do the math as they say, please.
I don't know about you, but if I were to do a thorough job I will need at least 20 minutes to do the Bukhari Wudu and when you add taking clothes off and putting them back on then perhaps 25 minutes. I guess it will vary from individual to individual, but I think this would be a reasonable average. When you add to it the Istikhara prayer itself, say another five minutes, the total bumps up to 30 minutes. So, we now have a grand total of 30x600000=18000000 minutes, which translates into a shade over 34 years. Twice as much as the claim of 16 years famously associated with Bukhari. Of course if you were paying attention, let's say our estimates are off by a full 15 minutes because Bukhari happened to be a Speedy Gonzales and he managed to do the above Ghusl with embedded Wudu, undressing, dressing and the Istikhara prayer all in a mere 15 minutes, even then he would have used up every minute of the available 16 years. Hence no time left for the Istikhara dream, let alone eating, sleeping, traveling, or conducting interviews.
Realistically, if we were to take him up on his word, it would have taken him hundreds of years.
Mind you, I kept the argument to easily verifiable numbers; I did not question the integrity of the narrators, did not analyze the matn of the reports, did not question the methodology employed, because all of them can be buried by subjective calls, however illogical, as is done by the traditionalist. Anybody who can count can verify these numbers for themselves and they don't add up.
Note: Some of his followers also did the math and amateurishly tried to push a new claim that he only performed the Ghusl and Istikhara for the ones that he had already vetted, but then he would have lost the claimed Divine hand in rejecting the remaining 593,000 reports, hence losing the premise of the claim on which this obvious falsehood is based.
Sira of the Prophet of God
The actual sira of the messenger of God is even more problematic. Well over ninety percent of the popular sira in circulation is based on the work of a single individual who is supposed to have compiled the information some 80 years after the death of the Prophet of God. Needless to say, he never met any of the companions to verify the claims directly. The disturbing thing is that the original work of Ibn Ishaq, the gentleman, is nowhere to be found. In fact, what we have is the work of Ibn Hisham and Tabari. Who in turn have based their work on two students of Ibn Ishaq, al-Bakka, and ibn Fadl al-Ansari. To add insult to injury the original work of these two gentlemen also perished. Most of the work of Tabari is also lost and bits that survived point to the fact that he just passed on whatever was in circulation.
So, we are left with an account of the Prophet of God that was compiled almost a century after his death, the original is lost and the next two originals were also lost, so we are left with Ibn Hisham who was repeatedly labeled as a liar by his contemporaries and Tabari who has confessed that his work is nothing but unverified stories.
We are Muslims. The very word of God is between our hands. How can we be expected to fall for this?
So, what does God have to say?
Quran 45:6 These are God's verses; we recite them for you truthfully. Which "Hadith", after God and His verses, do they believe in? Quran 45:7 Woe to every sinful fabricator Quran 45:8 He hears God's verses, then insists arrogantly on his way, as if he never heard them; promise him painful retribution.
And yet "they" insist. Why?
God's clear warnings are systematically ignored.
So woe to those who write the book with their (own) hands then, they say, "This (is) from Allah," to barter with it (for) a price little. So woe to them for what have written their hands and woe to them for what they earn. Quran 2:79
A reasonable question will be, who took it upon themselves to accept the claim of single narrators as something of value? When God in the Quran, our Furqan, and our Mizan, label those who cannot back their claims with four witnesses as liars. Yes, that is right, God calling them liars and this too in a mere social setting. Are we to believe that claims in the name of God and His messengers are to be accepted several notches below the standard laid out for mere social claims?
It is clear that over 90% of Mullahs exist and behave as a group, they take their orders from religious cabals. The individual Mullah is dependent for their salaries on the personality-centric core of various sects. He is working for a boss and not you. His loyalties force him to work against the Ummah. In fact, the neighborhood Mosque Mullah is a plant and an instrument of manipulation. Why should we allow it to continue?
Before running to the mosques to collect the clearly made up contradictory extra points (Ibn Umar says it is 27, Abu Huraira says it is 25), please keep the below two verses in mind and note the use of the word "ever";
And those who take a masjid (for causing) harm and (for) disbelief, and (for) division among the believers, and (as) a station for whoever warred (against) Allah and His Messenger before. And surely, they will swear, "Not we wish except the good." But Allah bears witness indeed, they (are) surely liars. (Do) not stand in it ever. A masjid founded on the righteousness from (the) first day (is) more worthy that you stand in it. Within it (are) men who love to purify themselves, and Allah loves the ones who purify themselves. Quran 9:107-108
It is an incredibly sad reality that almost every single mosque standing today is built on sectarian lines (divisions) and God has forbidden us to ever set foot in them since they are a source of divisions. No matter how you look at it, going to mosques is not an option anymore till everything changes.
The issue of "Quran was given by the same people who gave us the Ahadith"
As far as the argument that the same people who gave us the Hadith also gave us the Quran goes, let us do a quick reality check; not to mention Quran 9:101 and true to God's warning, three out of the next four Muslim leaders were murdered. Which gives one a good sense of the kind of environment that ensued. Now let us see what really happened with respect to the Quran reaching us.
Instead of taking a measured approach in the face of Quran 9:101, "their" solution is to declare all the companions infallible under the "who gave us the Quran" slogan. When you challenge them, that even if we were to assume God used them to pass down the Quran to us, it is interesting to note that, although they were able to transmit every single verse of the Quran in a Mutawatir, Bil lafz (verbatim) manner, when they sat down to transmit the "sayings" of the Prophet of God, suddenly they all had terrible bouts of memory leaks and 99.9% of the time conveniently there was nobody else around to hear what the Profit of God had to say.
In my humble opinion, this whole issue can be reduced to how the Quran deals with claims. On one level, easily over 99% of all Ahadith are claims made by third-party single narrators, not even worth bringing up for debate, hence, they must be systematically put aside. On another level, all claims related to "Obey the Messenger" cannot be corroborated through the Quran. The Quran does not say that "obey the messenger" means follow the Hadith. Similarly, the Quran does not say that Hadith can explain the Quran. All the noise about this or that missing from the Quran in order to justify Hadith is a ploy to distract the objectors from the fact that the claims by themselves on both levels have zero value in Islam.
In practice, the issue is further complicated. The report usually says one thing but the "scholars" step in to say something quite different and this is precisely the problem with these so-called "explanations". The first issue is the claim that they "explain" the verses of the Quran except that the Quranic verses are revealed in an already explained state. God testifies to that. The second issue is that these "explanations" of the already explained verses need to be explained and you guessed it, by "scholars" and not just any old scholar but a sect specific "scholar" tied to a specific sect or school of thought.
Hence, the main objective of this crude sophistry is to corner the market of "interpretations" and it is a big marketplace where millions change hands. Welcome to the ritual heavy, the illegal and for-profit world of organized religion.
On the other hand, the number of Hadith that qualifies as mutawatir (Quranic standard) range from less than a dozen to three hundred, in fact, the presence of a range by itself is troubling. No surprise then that the agreed upon number hovers around 10 in all and when you add the all-important bif lafz (verbatim) to it the number dips to half a dozen.
All these points strengthen the argument that the so-called "scholars" were in on it as mentioned already. The reason it is clear that the "scholars" are in on it, is that the arguments for and against the Hadith literature are black and white to the point that even a child can easily figure it out. Speaking of children, a good number of Hadith narrators were just that, kids as mentioned above.
... Continued in part II
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2020.09.13 21:45 IHEARTCHUCKY MY TOP 10 NEO GEO GAMES (MVS Not Included though If I did, Nightmare In The Dark Would Be Number #1)

10- Nam- 1975 (The First Game Ever Released for the Console, Nam is a Perfect example of a great start, Despite the story being disrespectful, It is still a fun journey throughout but man is it Hard as crap! It’s one of the cheapest games for the Aes due to it being a pack-in
9- Kizuna Encounter (Most people know this game for having only 5 copies made on the Aes, The European Version to be clear not the Japanese version which had over 50,000 copies produced im pretty sure. Kizuna encounter was Snk’s Attempt at making a X-Men Vs Street Fighter Game Where you can tag-in with 2 characters and Change during gameplay. It’s a fun experience and is worth your time. Don’t spend 30,000 Bucks for A European Copy if it ever surfaces though, Get a Flash Card or the MVS Version which is only around $150-260.
8- Real Bout Fatal Fury 2: The Newcomers (This was the first NEO Geo Game I Ever Played and Boy was it an experience! It’s the most balanced and one of the best Fighting games ever made in My Opinion. It features great Sprite-Work and Amazing Controls.
7- Samurai Showdown 2 (This was the game that every NEO-GEO owner had to own weather you were a MVS Owner or A AES owner, It’s Stunning to look at and Features Godly Sprite Animation. No Matter Who You ask this is one Amazing Fighter)
6- The Last Blade 2 (Easily One Of the best Sword fighting games next to SoulCalibur 2 on the Gamecube, Last blade 2 features Amazing Sprite Animation and fluid controls, This is an expensive game however going for around 3,200 dollars U.S complete)
5- Baseball Stars 2 (The best baseball game of all time in my opinion, It’s got a flamboyant announcer with some amazing detailed sprite animation and has arguably one of the best soundtracks in a sports game in my opinion. This is the best Baseball game on the NEO-GEO no doubt about that)
4- Magician Lord (Magician Lord was a Standout title in my opinion, It was the first Aes game I ever received and hou was it a fun Christmas that year. Despite being one of the toughest games of all time up there with Ghost N Goblins and Ninja Gaiden in terms of difficulty, It is a great game to boot up and play to this day)
3- NEO Turf Masters (This right here is what I call a GOLF game, Developed by the same team behind Metal Slug 1 and 2. NAZCA released this Standout Gem in Early May of 1996, NEO turf masters is a Great Sports title that packs a punch every time you turn your console on, Be warner though, It’s 35,400 for a Copy so I guess just get the switch version for 7:99.
2- Metal Slug X (I don’t own any of the Metal slugs for the Aes unfortunately but I have beaten X in the arcades and what I can say is Boy is it a Fantastic Game, I would put 3 up here but this isn’t a top 11 unfortunately, But no matter what Metal Slug game you get you’re gonna get a goodie :).)
Honorable Mentions: Top Players Golf, King Of Fighters 95, King Of Fighters 2003, Art Of Fighting 3, World Heroes Perfect, Samurai Showdown V Special, Metal Slug 2 and 3.
1- Garou: Mark Of The Wolves (This game Rocks, Some will say this game is just mediocre at best and others will say Real Bout is better, It’s basically the EarthBound of Fighting games, But Man O Man Do I Love This Game!!! It has it all! Amazing Spritework, Amazing OST, Fluid Controls and Perfect Cinematic Shots! This was the SwanSong for The System! This Is It! This is the best one in my opinion! But then again almost all NEO Geo games are good except for the Chibi-quiz ones or the mahjong games.
What’s Your Favorites?! I’d love to know :) this is my opinion by the way.
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2020.09.13 19:09 fragglepated [USA][KY][H] Some Keys, Single Issues, Runs, Sets, Bulk Lots Available [W] PayPay

I had to move my home office to another part of my house and I'm trying to get my stuff in some kind of order. In the mean time, I bought a big bulk lot of comics to add to the fun (Yes, the struggle is real).
Listing of books available is below.
Having said that, I have at least 5 long boxes of bagged and boarded comics -- mostly high grade with many probably dealer overstock-- that I can part with. Some of the sets and runs below are from this lot and they are all high grade books. I have no lists or descriptions other than they are a mix of Marvel, DC, Image, and etc. From the late 80's through about 2017. 25 Random books for $5.00. That's only 20 Cents per book. Shipping rates below apply. No guarantees on what you get, but I will make sure they are high grade. I also promise not to put any issues of Tribe in with them (LOL). Mods, if this isn't OK, I will remove this section.
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2020.09.13 17:36 llaverna Weekly Round-Up: September 7th - September 13th

Weekly Round-Up: September 7th - September 13th
/bangtan Weekly Round-Up
Previous thread: August 31st - September 6th
This round-up is for everything that happened in the /bangtan realm within the past week, compiled for your convenience! If you have feedback, please leave a comment or send me a PM.
The latest weekly round-up is linked on the sidebar of the subreddit. The link to the archive of past round-up posts can always be found in the wiki index.

Special

Date Thread
200910 Hey bangtan! This is idol interviewer, Liam McEwan... AMA!

Megathreads

Date Thread
200912 Happy RM day! [Birthday Compilation thread] - 2020

News & Information

Date Thread
200908 BTS's "Dynamite" is officially No. 1 on this week's #Hot100 chart for a second consecutive week
200909 Prudential Center: Got a question for @bts_bighit? Now's your chance to ask! In the coming days, we will be filming an episode of Mini Masterclass with #BTS.
200910 Weverse now allows users to customize profiles and choose profile pictures as well as follow other users
200910 ARMY Bomb Ver.3 and 'Map of the Soul Special Edition' can now connect to "Chicken Noodle Soup" music video on Weverse
200910 USA Today: Grammy Museum launching online streaming service with exclusive Billie Eilish, BTS interviews
200911 BTS will reportedly guest on MBC FM4U's "Bae Cheolsoo's Music Camp", to air on September 14
200912 BTS to guest alongside TXT on I-LAND on the 18th of September at 8PM
200911 BTS to appear as special guests at the Korean American Community Foundation Gala on September 23

Awards & music show wins

Date Thread
200907 BTS has won Best Music Video at the 2020 iHeartRadio Music Awards
200907 BTS has won Best Fan Army for the 3rd consecutive year at the 2020 iHeartRadio Music Awards
200909 BTS have taken their 7th win for "Dynamite" on today's Show Champion
200910 BTS have won the Artist Award for the third consecutive year at the Korean Broadcasting Awards
200911 BTS have taken their 8th win for "Dynamite" on today's KBS Music Bank
200912 BTS have taken their 9th win for "Dynamite" on today's MBC Music Core
200913 BTS 10th win for "Dynamite" on today's Inkigayo, 100th win overall!

Merchandise news

Date Thread
200907 “Dynamite” Celebration Merchandise is now available to preorder on Weverse Shop
200908 Weverse: BTS Skool Luv Affair Special Addition re-release notice
200908 “Skool Luv Affair Special Addition” re-release presale is now open on Weverse Shop
200908 Bighit Official Merch: In the Soop Merch
200908 In the SOOP BTS ver. Merchandise 01, 02 and 03 will be available on Weverse Shop from September 9, 11AM KST
200908 Skool Luv Affair Special Addition is now available on Amazon!
200909 In the SOOP BTS ver. merchandise is now available to preorder on Weverse Shop
200910 “Break The Silence: The Movie” commemorative merchandise will be available on Weverse Shop from September 10, 11AM KST
200910 “Break The Silence: The Movie” commemorative merchandise is now available to preorder on Weverse Shop
200910 Shipping for BTS Memories of 2019 Blu-ray delayed to September 17 due to manufacturing issues

Expired news

Date Thread
200909 BTS to reportedly appear on KBS' 'News 9' on September 10 at 9PM KST
200910 [Exclusive: BTS x KBS] First Live Start At 5pm kst While KBS News Start At 9pm kst

Official Media

Type Date Link Thread
Bomb 200913 [BANGTAN BOMB] 'Dynamite' MV (B-Side) Reaction Thread
In the SOOP 200908 [Behind] In the SOOP BTS ver. EP.3 Memories of a Rainy Day: Behind-the-scenes Thread
In the SOOP 200910 In the SOOP BTS ver. EP.4 Farewell For Now Thread
In the SOOP 200910 [In the SOOP BTS ver.] Official Clip - Ep.5 Thread
Live 200912 RM Vlive: 안녕하세용😁😁 Thread
Teaser 200910 BTS (방탄소년단) 'BREAK THE SILENCE: THE MOVIE' Moving Poster Thread
Other 200907 Learn! KOREAN with BTS [EP.27] BTS' Music Making Thread

BTS Interviews & Appearances

  • Comprehensive list of Dynamite interviews HERE
Date Link Thread
200909 SiriusXM: BTS Plays 'This or That' Thread
200909 GQ: BTS Breaks Down Their Style Heroes Thread
200910 SiriusXM Reverse The Verse: BTS Guess Their Songs Played Backwards Thread
200910 KBS X BTS Exclusive Livestream Thread
200910 KBS News9 Interview with BTS Thread
200910 [Compilation] BTS @ NBC Today Show
200911 CNN: BTS on making music, watching Netflix and working out during quarantine Thread
200911 Reuters: BTS Revels In A Milestone But Misses Celebrating With Fans Thread
200912 BTS perform "Dynamite" on NTV's 'The Music Day'
200914 BTS on MBC Radio (Music Camp), 1800hrs kst. Eng subs will be available. Thread

Official SNS

Date SNS Link Thread
200908 Weverse Compilation
200908 Twitter Bangtan Thread
200908 Twitter BigHit Entertainment Thread
200908 Twitter Bangtan Thread
200908 Twitter Bangtan: teamwork makes the dream work ! Thread
200908 Twitter BTS Twitter Compilation (No. 1 on Billboard Hot 100 for 2nd Consecutive Week)
200910 Twitter Today’s Bangtan @ KBS Thread
200910 Twitter Namjoon Thread
200910 Twitter Today's Bangtan @ TODAY Citi Music Series Thread
200911 TikTok Jin on TikTok Thread
200912 Twitter Namjoon Thread
200912 Twitter Namjoon Thread
200912 Twitter BTS Japan Official Thread

CF & Partnerships

Date Thread
200907 [FILA] BTS 'Go Beyond' Video Ads
200907 Visit Seoul - j-hope
200907 Samsung Mobile: Ding-dong. Just your favorite @BTS_twt chillin’ out with the #GalaxyNote20. #GalaxyxBTS
200907 Spotted 🐨: BTS’s #RM chillin` with the #GalaxyNote20 @BTS_twt #GalaxyxBTS
200907 Samsung Mobile x BTS Tweet Compilation
200908 Hyundai Lifestyle - BTS Voice Messages
200908 Visit Seoul - Jin
200908 Samsung Mobile: Suit up – something big is on its way. 👔
200909 [FILA] BTS 'Go Beyond' - Jin ver.
200909 [FILA] BTS 'Go Beyond' - jhope ver.
200909 Visit Seoul - Jungkook
200909 Samsung Mobile: Your grand ideas will never go off track. 💡
200910 [SEOUL X BTS] SEE YOU IN SEOUL D-1 (Jimin)
200910 Samsung Mobile: Living proof that an epic gaming sesh can happen anytime, anywhere. 🎮
200911 [FILA] BTS 'Go Beyond' - JungKook ver.
200911 [FILA] BTS 'Go Beyond' - SUGA ver.
200911 Bodyfriend Chuseok Event
200911 #BTS X #SEOUL..I hope the first destination will be “SEOUL” when the trip starts!!
200911 [SEOUL X BTS] SEE YOU IN SEOUL
200912 [FILA] BTS 'Go Beyond' - RM ver.
200912 [FILA] BTS 'Go Beyond' Video Ads
200913 GalaxyxBTS: The Strange Tailor Shop 👔
200913 Samsung Mobile: A feast for your senses. Arriving soon. 🎂

Articles

Date Publisher Article Thread
200906 Forbes Meet The New Anonymous—100 Million BTS ARMY And K-Pop Stans, A Cyber Threat To Be Reckoned With Thread
200907 K-media MCST and KCTI find estimated economic impact of “Dynamite” to be 1.7T KRW (1.43B USD), even after accounting for the effects of the pandemic on tourism Thread
200907 Pulse Korea To Build On BTS Success By Launching Online Kpop Concert Platform Thread
200907 Yonhap Feature Big Hit Edu aims to help global ARMY connect with BTS via Korean learning Thread
200907 Business Times 'Jungkook Effect' Boosts Milk Sales In The U.S. Thread
200909 Pulse Major Kpop Labels Sharing Windfall From BTS Feat And Bighit IPO Thread
200910 NBC K-Pop band BTS to become multimillion-dollar shareholders in their music label, in latest industry shift Thread
200911 Variety Deconstructing BTS’ ‘Dynamite’: Vocal Producer Jenna Andrews Reveals Method to the Magic Thread

SNS Mentions

Date Link Thread
200906 Rivers Cuomo Thread
200909 TalkOfTheCharts updates their Billboard Hot100 predictions, putting ‘Dynamite’ at #1 for the second week in a row. Thread
200908 Son Sung Deuk Instagram “again!!!” Thread
200908 MAX Thread
200909 Instagram: Jin’s brother post pic at bus stop from “You Never Walk Alone” album cover. Thread
200911 Brandi Hitt (ABC7 LA News Anchor): Dynamite on ABC7's Friday Dance Party. Thread
200912 Red Bull Gaming Thread
200913 Instagram Post: Son Sung-deuk celebrating his VMA win for Best Choreography for "On." Thread

Other media

NOTE: Entries with 💜 have new content directly involving BTS
Type 💜 Date Link Thread
Cover 200905 Eric Nam covering eight by IU (Prod.&Feat. SUGA) Thread
Video 💜 200907 (Go to) Lotte Duty Free Website now to preregister for the Lottle Duty Free Online Family Concert Thread
Video 200907 E! News: Justin Bieber Explains Why BTS' "Dynamite" Is Such a Big Deal Thread
Video 200907 BBY GANG CONVERSATIONS: BTS ARMY Journalism with Brian Patrick Byrne(@bybrianbyrne) Thread
Video 200908 Park Bogum sings Tomorrow by BTS in a scene in new TVN drama Record of Youth Thread
Video 200910 BTS Dynamite Sing with me by DKDKTV and Korean YouTubers (Lip Sync Challenge) Thread
Video 200912 Kelly Clarkson singing the lyrics to the song "I'm too sexy" over BTS’ Dynamite instrumental on Fallon Thread
Video 💜 200912 BTS video message for 9th K-Pop contest in India Thread

Milestones

Type Date Thread
Charts/Sales 200907 "Dynamite" remains at #1 on the Digital Song Sales chart. (182K sold)
Charts/Sales 200907 Chart Data: BTS’ "Dynamite" is now the #1 best selling download released in 2020 in the US.
Charts/Sales 200909 Dynamite has now achieved 222 PAKs, the most for any idol group song
Charts/Sales 200909 BTS Becomes The First Idol Group In History To Surpass 300 Perfect All-Kills (PAKs) Overall On Korean Digital Charts
Charts/Sales 200912 Dynamite becomes the first and only song by an idol group (and second song overall) in Korean chart history to achieve 300 Perfect All-Kills (PAK)
Likes 200908 "DNA" by @BTS_twt Official MV has now hit over 16M likes on YouTube, their 3rd MV to do so after Boy With Luv & Dynamite!
Streams 200908 BTS Has Reached 25+ MILLION (+471k) of Monthly Listeners on Spotify with 25+ MILLION (This is the highest peak for a Korean Act)
Streams 200909 BTS Spotify account has now gained more streams in 2020 (252 days) than they did in 2019. The 2019 total was 3.64 B.
Streams 200913 "Dynamite" by BTS becomes the 1st song by a foreign act to surpass 200k streams in a day on Spotify Jpn, a new highest daily peak since its release!
Streams 200913 BTS's "Map of the Soul: 7 ~ The Journey~" Album has Surpassed 200 MILLION Streams on Spotify (2nd Japanese Language Album to achieve this)
Views 200909 BTS has surpassed 4 Billion YouTube views across official videos in 2020 remaining the most viewed act this year on this platform

BTS Universe Story

Date Link Thread
200907 BTSUniverseStory : That day, our spring day Anything seemed possible when we were together How will our spring day play out? Thread
200908 BTS Universe Story: The lights in the subway car suddenly go out. JiMin, TaeHyung, and JungKook plunge into darkness. The intercom is silent - what's next? Thread
200909 BTS Universe Story - Test: Who's the protagonist of your story? Thread
200910 BTS Universe Story to launch on September 24 Thread
200911 BTS Universe Story: The sun hasn't set in 4 days. JiMin's disappeared, so TaeHyung waits. One day, two men speak to him... Thread
200912 BTS Universe Story: The mood in the research lab is tense as NamJoon nervously awaits the results. He suddenly shouts in jubilation... Thread
200913 BTS Universe Story: Cheers fill the stadium. JungKook catches his breath as he looks up at the crowd chanting his name. Thread

TinyTAN

Date Link Thread
200909 TinyTan: Do you sense an aroma of cuteness in this latte ☕, too? Thread
200912 TinyTAN: Don't want to be away from you for even a second! The new #TinyTAN that sticks close to you! Thread
200912 TinyTan Minifigures coming soon! Thread

BT21

Date Link Thread
200910 Piling on sweetness on sweetness on sweetness on....🍭 Thread

BT21 merchandise news

Date Thread
200910 #BT21_UNIVERSE #DOLL_SERIES Limited sale starts NOW!

Misc

Date Thread
200908 Namjoon's Birthday Flash Fundraiser!
200909 I made a tutorial for how to play Dynamite on piano! Cup of milk, let’s rock and roll.
200911 [Throwback] Seven years ago today, BTS released "O!RUL8,2?" and music video for title track "N.O"
200911 "Break the silence: the movie" spoiler thread

Subreddit

Rolling /bangtan Awards 2020 nomination form

Community posts

Top Discussion Posts

  1. [+225] How much do you think Run BTS contributed to BTS's success?
  2. [+189] Compilation of positive Twitter threads
  3. [+150] Celebrate Namjoon’s Favorite Artists
  4. [+99] Favourite livestreams
  5. [+92] Dynamite Hot 100

Weekly threads

Fanart

Here are past week's top 5 fanart posts from our sister subreddit, /heungtan!
Submitter Thread
teteotolis I've painted V 😅 (I think I'll paint RM soon xD ! )
Dizzyxxoo Jungkook Fanart [OC]
AUOGil82 This year’s birthday drawing for Namjoon~! (๑・̑◡・̑๑)
libellendrache I started pyrography recently and branded the LY logo
Dizzyxxoo JK Fanart [OC]
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2020.09.11 15:56 jonnytech [TX][H] Absolute Batman Reborn, Inc, Dark Knight, Power Rangers Deluxe Year One & Shattered Grid, Inferno comp TPB set, TPB sets of: Death of wolverine, New-Xmen Adademy X + Childhoods End, Avgs Initiative, Ult FF, Cloal/Dagger, Ant Man, Supersons, I, Vampire, Red Hood, JL 3000/3001 [W] Paypal

Tons of New stuff!
- Some Absolutes (Batman Reborn, Incorporated, Dark Knight, Superman For Tomorrow)
- Power Rangers Deluxe HC's (Year One, Shattered Grid)
- Complete set of Ultimate Fantastic Four TPB - Vol 1-11, Ultimate Galactus TPB 1-3, Ultimates 3 + Ultimatum Premier HCs
- Wolverines (the weekly) TPB set Vol 1-4
- Death of Wolverine Tie in TPB set
- New X-Men Sets - Academy X 1-3 + Hellions, Childhood's End Vol 1-5
- Cloak and Dagger Complete Collection Vol 1 and 2
- Inferno Complete Collection Vol and 2
- Avengers Initiate Complete Collection Vol 1 and 2
- Dark Avengers Complete Collection TPB
- Ant-Man Spencer TPB Set
- The Spectre (Ostrander) Vol 2
- Teen Titans (post Rebirth by Glass) TPB Set Vol 1, 2, 3 (full throttle, Turn it up, seek and destroy)
- Supersons (Rebirth) TPB Set - Vol 1-3
- Justice League 3000/3001 TPB Set (4 TPBs)
- Red Hood and the Outlaws (New 52) Vol 1-4 set
- I, Vampire (New 52) Vol 1-3 set
- Batman - The Dark Prince Charming HC Vol 1 and 2 (sealed)
- RASL Vol 1 - The Drift B&W treasury Size

Silver Age X-Men Omnibus set info - Vol 1 (Ross Cover) and Vol 2 (Cassaday Cover) (Pending sale)
Both are still sealed in original shrink and in excellent shape
I am asking $729 for the set, that INCLUDES paypal fees and USPS priority shipping/insurance to the USA. Local Pick up in the Houston TX area is available. I would be happy to ship international at the buyers expense.
That price is pretty firm. Not looking to split the set right now (unless blown away with an offer). However, I would entertain a trade/partial trade. I can also throw in some singles listed below if that helps expedite a sale
Here are pictures from all angles - LINK
Be advised this set is cross posted in several places... thanks for looking!

Buyer to pay exact shipping, Pick up in Houston, TX area available
Prices are fairly flexible, especially for multiple purchases. Willing to break sets if the split makes sense. Cross-posted to other places. Ebay user feedback: Jonnytech
Pictures (can provide more on request, If it's not on this list its not available anymore)
Here are few things i'd be willing to trade for, send list and I can look: Spirit Archives 14, Absolute Ronin, Absolute Wildcats, Newsboys Legion Vol 2 HC (Kirby), Legion - Enemy Manifest, Rising Stars Compendium, Ultimate FF HC 6, Ultimatum Deluxe HC
Amazing Spider-Man issues 194 and under, Uncanny X-Men 136 and under, 1990's Green Lantern (22 and up).
Misc Essential Volumes: Amazing Spiderman 1, 2, 11; Fantastic Four 3, 8, 9; Avengers 1, 2, 8, 9; Daredevil 1, 3-6; Classic X-Men 1, Uncanny X-Men 1, 4-11; Defenders 2-7; Marvel Team up 3, 4
It's a long for sale list...

-----Trades and HCs (buyer to pay exact shipping)-------
Absolutes/Omnibus/Deluxe
Absolute Batman Reborn (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($125)
Absolute Batman Incorporated (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($75)
Absolute Dark Knight Returns (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($60)
Absolute Superman - For Tomorrow (Sealed in new condition) ($60)
Power Rangers - Year One - Deluxe (Boom) ($80)
Power Rangers - Shattered Grid - Deluxe (Boom) ($50)
Star Wars - Classic UK Omnibus (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($50)

Ultimate Universe (Marvel)
Ultimate Fantastic Four TPB Complete Set - Vol 1-11 ($99 set)
Ultimate Galactus TPB complete Set - Book 1, 2, 3 ($25 set)
Ultimates 3 + Ultimatum Premier sized HC Set ($40 set)
Ultimate X-Men Vol 5 - Ultimate War ($3) - will include free with either set

Marvel Universe HC/TPB
See top of Post for info on Silver Age X-Men Omnibus Vol 1 and 2 Set
Dark Avengers Complete Collection TBP (Bendis, $60)
Ant Man by Nick Spencer Complete TPB Set ($30)
Cloak and Dagger complete collection TPB Set ($30 Set)
Avengers - The Initiative - Complete Collection set - Vol 1 and 2 ($59 set)
Age of Ultron (Bendis) TPB ($10)
Thanos: Cosmic Power TPB ($15)
Thanos – A god up There Listening – oversized HC ($7)
Thanos Imperative TPB ($10)
Thanos Rising TPB ($5)
Star Wars - A New Hope 40th Anniversary HC (variant cover collection) ($14, in shrink)
New Avengers Vol Premier HC vol 2 (2011 second series) ($5)
Captain America – American Nightmare – Premier HC ($5)
All-New, All-Different Avengers Vol 1 - Magnificent Seven ($4)

Marvel X-Men Books
Wolverine – Origin II oversized HC ($10)
Weapon X Vol 1 TPB - Weapons of Mutant Destruction Prelude ($4)
Wolverines Complete TPB Set ($30)
Death of Wolverine TPB Tie-in Set ($25)
New X-Men - Academy X (DeFilippis/Weir) Complete TPB Set ($35 Set)
New X-Men: Childhoods End (Kyle/Yost) - Complete TPB Set Vol 1-5 ($50 Set)
X-Men: Inferno - Complete Collections TPB Vol 1 and 2 set (vol 1 has a ding on bottom spine corner) ($75 Set)

Marvel Spidy TPB
Daily Bugle TPB (2017 version) (includes Daily bugle 1-4, Deadline 1-4, more) - ($10)
Untold Tales of Spider-Man TPB (1996 edition, 1-8, major shelf wear) - ($5)
Spider-Man and Daredevil – Greatest Team-ups (1996, major shelf wear) - ($5)

DC Misc HC’s / TPB
Spirit Archives 9, 10, 11, 22, 24, 25, 26 (all new in shrink, $175 for set, will split 9-11 out)
Newsboys Legion Vol 1 HC (DC Kirby Library) - ($25)
Green Lantern - Agent Orange HC - ($15)
Superman Unchained – Deluxe HC (SnydeLee) ($10, minor shelf wear on jacket)
Superman / Wonder Woman (New 52) Vol 1 HC – Power Couple - ($15)
Teen Titans (New 52) TPB – The Culling – Rise of the Ravagers - ($13)
Earth 2 (New 52) Vol 1 HC– The Gathering TPB - ($10)
Super Sons - Rebirth Complete TPB Set ($29 Set)
Teen Titans post-Rebirth TPB Set ($29 Set)
The Spectre (Ostrander) Vol 2 - Wrath of God TPB ($20)
Justice League 3000 TPB set ($30 set)
Red Hood and the Outlaws - New 52 TPB Set ($35 set)
I, Vampire - New 52 complete TPB Set ($25 set)

DC Batman HCs/TPB
Batman - The Dark Prince Charming HC Vol 1 and 2 (Marini, Dargaud) ($25 set)
Catwoman – Nine Lives of a Feline Fatale (minor cover creasing, shelf wear, $20)
Batman – Gotham County Line TPB ($10)
Batman – Dark Knight Returns TPB (2002 version) ($7)
Batman – Gotham By Gaslight TPB (2006 edition, includes Master of the Future) ($6)
Batman - Master of the Future (1991 Prestige Format elseworlds, gaslight sequel)) ($3)
Batman and Robin – New 52 Vol 1 Bad Blood – Essential Edition TPB (Tomasi/Gleason, same contents as “Born to Kill” TPB) ($12)
Batman - In Darkest Knight (Prestige Format elseworlds) ($5)
Batman - Scottish Connection (Prestige Format) ($5)

Other
RASL Vol 1 - The Drift (TPB, B&W Treasury size) ($5)

------SINGLES------- Buyer pays exact shipping
Legion of Super-Heroes Collection
LOSH 1st series –
Superboy and the Legion of Super-heroes – 207 (VG/F), 210 (G), 212 (VG), 213 (no cover), 215 (no cover), 218 (G+), 220 (VG), 224 (G+), 228 (G), 230 (G), 233 (no cover), 234 (VG/F), 236 (F), 237 (VG/F), 238 (reader) ($23 set)
Legion of Super-heroes – 270 (VG), 279 (VG), 280 (VG), 283 (VG), 289 (F), 296 (VG), 297 (F), 298 (VG), 299 (F), 300 (VG), 301 (F), 302 (VG/F), 303 (F), 305 (F), 306 (VG), 310 (F), 311 (F), 312 (F), 313 (F+), annual 3 (F+) ($20 set)
Tales of the Legion of Superheroes – 326 (F-, 1st reprint), 327 (x2, F), 328 (VG+), 329 (F), 346 (F), 350 (F), 352 (G) ($5 set)
LOSH 2nd Series (Levitz) –5 (F), 6 (F), 10 (F), 11 (F), 14 (VF), 17 (VF), 18 (VF, crisis), 40 (F), 43 (VF) 44 (VF/NM), 45 (F+), 47 (VF), 60 (VF), 61 (VF), 63 (VF), Legion of Substitute Heroes Special 1 (F, 1985) ($15 set)
LOSH 3d Series (1989) – 1 (VF), 2 (VF), 5 (VF), 25 (VF), 26 (VF), 41 (VF), Annual 1 (VF-), Annual 2 (VF-) ($12 set)
Legionnaires – 1 (open bag w/ Computo card), 2, 3 – AVG VF ($5 set)

New Teen Titans Collection -
If there are single issues you need let me know, I have a stack of doubles i can check
Teen Titans (1970’s) – 44 (no cover), 45 (no cover), 46 (no cover), 47 (G), 48 (no cover), 50 (G) - $7 set
Teen Titans Spotlight (1986) – 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 18, 21 (set avg F, $8 set)
New teen Titans (Vol 2, 1984) – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 37, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 47 (F to VF, $38 for set)
New Titans (continued from New Teen Titans vol 2) – 65, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71 (F), 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 107, 108, 109, 117,annual 6, 7, 8, 9 (VF or better, $79 for set)
Team Titans (1992) – 1 (x5 cover set), 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15 (VF or better, $19 set)
Teen Titans (1996) – 1, 2, 3, 4 (VF or better, $8 set)
The Titans (1999) - 23, 24 - $4 set

Justice League Collection
Justice League of America (Vol 1) sets:

Post Giffen/Dematteis - $39 set
JLA (1997) - 28, 29, 30, 31 ($5 set)

West Coast Avengers + Extras - $35 set

X-Men Bronze/Copper Singles
Cable – 1 (x2), 2, 3, 15, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 30, 32, 51 (VF or better, $15 set)
X-Man – 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 18, 20, 21, 22, 26 (F), 29 (VG), 33, 38 (VG) – (VF or better, $10 set)
Excalibur – 33 (F), 34, 35, 42 (VG), 43, 46, 47, 50, 60, 70 (VG), 73, 92, 93, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 115, -1 - (VF or better, $18 set)
Magneto 0 (1993) - $2
Generation X – 1, 4, 5 (x2), 6, 18, 21 (VF or better) – ($7 set)

Marvel Singles
Warlock/Infinity War Set ($30 Set)
Micronauts – The New Voyages – 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15 – all F ( set for $5)
Hercules – Prince of Power 1984 mini – 1 (x2 DM, VG, F), 2 (x2, NS & DM, F), 3 (NS, VG/F), 4 (DM, VG/F) – (Set for $4)
Inhumans (1975 series) – 7 (reader, $1)
Official Marvel No-Prize Book (1982) + Generic Comic Book (1984) – 1 (VG, $4 set)
Secret Defenders – 1, 2, 3 (VF or better, $5 set)
Red Sonja (1982 2nd series, only 2 issues) – 1 (x2, F and VG), 2 (F) (Set for $5)
Red Sonja (1983, 3d Series) – 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 (F to F+ - set for $7)
Punisher – 2 (F), 8 (VF), 35 , 36, 41, 42, 46, 47, 48, 50, 56, 59, 60 (x2), 61, 67, 68, 103 (F+/VF-), annual 4 (F to VF), Punisher War Zone – 3, 34 (F to VF), Classic Punisher (reprints of early shorts) – ($30 set)

DC Singles
Omega Men set (1983, Avg F condition, $10 set) - 1, 2, 7, 8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 35
Infinity Inc set (1983, Avg F Condition, $25 set) - 1 (VG), 2, 3, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 22 (crisis), 23 (crisis), 46 (millennium)
Saga of Swamp Thing (1982)
DC Special Series (1977) – 10 (G, $2)
Warlord Collection
Underworld Unleashed 3 (VF/NM) $2
History of the DC Universe 1, 2 (VF, $5 set)
Invasion – 1 (F), 2 (F), 3 (x2 a DM (VF) and NS (F)) - $7 set
Millennium – 1, 2, 3 , 4 , 5, 6, 7, 8 (F to VF) - $8 set
Legends – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (F, $9 set)
All Star Comics (1999) 1, 2 (VF, $4 set)
JSA (1999) – 1 , 2 , 4 (avg VF-, $10 set)
Justice Society (1991 mini) – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 (avg VF, $6 set)
Justice Society (1992) – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 (avg VF, complete set, $15 set)
America vs the Justice Society (1985) – 1, 2, 3, 4 (VG/F) ($6 set)

Superman Singles
Superman Family Giant (1970’s)– 180, 206 (VG) (all VG, $4 Set)
Superman (1987) – 73 (VF), 109, 111, 112, 114, 118 – ($10 set)
Superman: The Man of Steel – 55, 57, 60, 61, 63 ($7 set)
Adventures of Superman – 532, 541, 543 ($5 set)
Superman – the Man of Tomorrow – 4, 5, 6, 7 ($5 set)
Superboy (1994) – 1, 2, 11 (all F, $3 set)
Supergirl (1994 mini) – 1, 2 (all F, $2)
Steel (1994) – 1, 3 – ($4 set)
World of Smallville – 1, 2 – ($2 set)

Other Singles
John Sable, Freelance (First Comics, mid 1980s Mike Grell) – 5, 8 (x2), 9, 10, 11 (x2), 14, 15, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 45, 48, 52 (Avg F condition, $20 for set)

Blu Ray/DVD Sets
Stargate SG1 Season 1 DVD Set - ($5)
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2020.09.09 12:05 GianniRivera10 [Facce da Milan] Roberto Donadoni... or the Uzbek

Injuries, in the history of a team, fuel the heroic side of things. Okay, not for all players. Let's say, the injuries of Mexes (inflammation from tanning lights) or Dida (lombalgy caused by a quick rise from the bench), Marco Simone (slipped in the bathtub, happened to Tevez as well), Lentini and Niang (Porsche lesion) or Nesta (Playstation) are not exactly epic - even if the rivals were obviously inspired to right poems about these. Moreover, the injury has to be visible as well - because when the problem comes far away from the camera lens, like for van Basten or in a friendly match like for the unlucky Graziano 'Lupetto' Mannari (tibia + fibula + ligaments), it does not have that legendary allure. Which also contributes to the importance of the match. Therefore, the top 3 mythical injuries in Milan history are:
  1. Franco Baresi, Inter - Milan of 1989. Klinsmann breaks his arm with a kick (and instantly understood in which team he plays, one second after asks hysterically for a foul, penalty, sending off and a Scudetto in the court). The Captain, to refresh his old nickname 'Franz' in Beckenbauer's honor, ends the game with the arm to the neck like the German champion.
  2. Nestor Combin, Estudiantes - Milan of 1969. One of the images that made Milan history. Face broken by an Aguirre Suarez punch. Seeing the scenes in TV, the Argentine president and general, Juan Carlos Ongania, who wasn't afraid to 'share' with his nation a few 'Bastones Largos', gave an order to arrest Suarez - moreover, he arrested Combin for draft evasion.
  3. Roberto Donadoni, Crvena Zvezda - Milan of 1988. The defender Vasiljevic, already booked and who scored an own goal which referee Pauly preferred not to see, goes in a harsh late tackle on Donadoni (a few moments before he had served an assist for van Basten), who is heading the ball: probably the Serb only wants to elbow him, but the clash dynamics is so hard that the 2 heads hit each other violently. Donadoni falls to the ground as if he died.
Anyone who regularly sees football tackles knows there is a particular situation, when the opponents are making desperate gestures to the sidelines, in front of this kick that puts the match on the second place and that made everyone's stomachs shrink (even if for the interista neurons the Battle of Belgrade is just 'the fog match'). On the pitch, Piksi Stojkovic, one of those who promised kicks to the Milanisti since the first leg, who goes against Ancelotti in the tunnel at San Siro, forgets about the feud and puts his hands in his hair. Radovanovic shakes his hands, the veteran Colombo moves away from the scene then collapses heartbroken, the 20 yo Maldini falls on the ground and bursts into tears next to Donadoni. The 120 thousands spectators of the Marakana, orchestrated by Arkan, do not go silent but lower their volume. The TV camera focuses on the agitation next to Donadoni, of whom you can only see the legs, which start moving in rather reassuring spasms. In that moment, Roberto has a violet face and clenched teeth, doctor Monti is forcing his mandibula to take out his tongue which ended up in the back of his throat, saving the player's life.
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Donadoni: I do not remember anything. My first clear image is when I woke up in the hospital in Belgrade. There were two men with me: one was a terminal stage patient, he had a severe tumor and was asking me how I was, the other fell from the 3rd floor, didn't have a single bone in the right place but was peeling tangerines and was squeezing the juice on my lips, because I could not open my mouth or eat anything. They were way worse off than man and were preoccupied by my state as if I was in the worst situation: what a wonderful explanation to understand how lucky I was.
Sandro Sabatini, at that time, Tuttosport journalist, left the stadium to follow the midfielder to the hospital*: In the next room, an old lady was listening the game: I do not understand a single Serbian word, but when it's noisy, they're attacking, when it's silent, Milan are pushing forward. Meanwhile, I had 'sent' my piece via the payphone at the hospital. The penalty shootout was played and my intutition told me that Milan were through. I return to Donadoni and tell him 'Roberto, you made it, Milan has won'. I see a tear falling from his left eye.*
(...maybe you were expecting something else from a Donadoni description) (like Luci a San Siro, the first true transfer of Berlusconi - which on top of all, broken the jus primae noctis Juventus had over Atalanta's players) (the dribbles, the assists, the dummies, the crosses) (Holy Mother of God, Donadoni's crosses from left to the right) (the six Scudetti, the three European Champions Cups, the always unexpected goals, apparently not unsaveable, which would leave top goalkeepers fulminated) (his shy character, not mediatic or extrovert enough for the Italian National Team) (the economic support to Angelo Anquiletti's family, who had followed the same path from Atalanta to Milan one generation earlier) (but we chosen this story because even if he's not the first face that pops in your mind when you think about the biggest gladiators of our story that commenced in 1899, Roberto Donadoni from Cisano Bergamasco wears Milan on his face, on that jaw which remained slanted) (and you'd agree that in such a book with his name, we could not not include the story of that face, that from time to time risks to display a crooked but contagious smile) (...sure, these being said, we cannot only depict him fallen to the ground, senseless or connected to the machines in the hospital) (therefore, we conclude with Donadoni watching another Milanista)
Almost all of Rivera's moves left you speechless. The elegance was compensating for the little physical strength, his body feints that were bewildering opponents, the pleasure of making other score: that was my idea of football, also because I was never a great finisher. In fact, when I wore my first pair of Adidas Rivera, black with red stripes, I felt like I was flying.
(Paolo Madeddu)
Translated and adapted from 'Facce da Milan: 82 ritratti di gente rossonera' by Comunque Milan
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Happy 57th birthday to Roberto 'Luci a San Siro' Donadoni, one of the greatest right wingers in AC Milan history, club for which he played 390 matches in 12 seasons (1986/87-1995/96; 1997/98-1998/99), scoring 23 times and winning 6 Scudetti (1987-88, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1993-94, 1995-96, 1998-99), 3 European Champion Cups (1989, 1990, 1994), 2 Coppe Intercontinentali (1989, 1990), 3 European Supercups (1989, 1990, 1995), 4 Italian Supercups (1989, 1992, 1993, 1994), 1 Mundialito (1987). Donadoni has also represented Italy 63 times, scoring 5 goals, losing the 1994 World Cup final in the process.
He also played with Atalanta (B and A, 1982-86), MetroStars New York (A, 1996-97), and Al Ittihad (A, 1999-00).Donadoni has coached Lecco (C1, fired during the 14th day and recalled during the 2001-02 season), Livorno (B and A, 2002-03, 2004-05 (took over), 2005-06), Genoa (B, fired during the 2003-04 season), the Italian national team (2006-08), Napoli (2009), Cagliari (2010-2011), Parma (2012-2015), Bologna (2015-2018), Shenzhen (2019-2020).
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Here are your results: You will see below where you stand in comparison to others in the general population on the major traits and their aspects:
Remember that each personality trait and aspect (and your relative position with respect to them) has advantages and disadvantages. It is for that reason that variation exists in the human population: there is a niche for each personality configuration. Much of what constitutes success in life is therefore the consequence of finding the place in relationships, work and personal commitment that corresponds to your unique personality structure. Good luck with your expanded self-understanding!
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Agreeableness: Very Low

You are very low in agreeableness, which is the primary dimension of Interpersonal interaction in the Big Five personality trait scientific model. Agreeableness has two aspects: compassion and politeness, which will be explained separately. Agreeableness is a very complex trait, with marked positive and negative elements all along its distribution. Because of this, higher scores and lower scores need to be explained at the same time.
People high in agreeableness are nice: compliant, nurturing, kind, naively trusting and conciliatory. However, because of their tendency to avoid conflict, they often dissemble and hide what they think. People low in agreeableness are not so nice: stubborn, dominant, harsh, skeptical, competitive and, in the extreme, even predatory. However, they tend to be straightforward, even blunt, so you know where they stand.
Your score puts you at the 6th percentile for agreeableness. If you were one of 100 people in a room, you would be less agreeable than 93 of them and more agreeable than 6 of them.
AGREEABLENESS

6th percentile

You are less agreeable than 93 of 100 people
People with very low levels of agreeableness are seen by others as markedly competitive, colder, tougher and very much less empathic. They do not easily see the best in others, and are not particularly tolerant (an attitude that is much valued by agreeable people). They are very much less concerned about the emotional state of others, are uncommonly willing to engage in conflict, and will happily sacrifice peace and harmony to make a point or (if conscientious) to get things done. People may find them painfully straightforward and blunt. They tend very strongly towards dominance, rather than submission (particularly if also below average in neuroticism).
People with very low levels of agreeableness do not easily forgive. They are not accepting, flexible, gentle or patient. They don’t easily feel pity for those who are excluded, punished or defeated, and tend to attribute such problems to weakness. They are also very unlikely to be taken advantage of by disagreeable, manipulative or otherwise troublesome people, or those with criminal or predatory intent. Their high levels of skepticism play a protective role, although it may often interfere with their ability to cooperate with or trust others whose intentions are genuinely good. They are also less likely to reward good behavior or to give credit where it is due. They can cooperate, when cooperation is in their clear self-interest, but very much appreciate competition, with its well-defined losers and winners. They do not easily lose arguments (or avoid discussions) with anyone, and can forthrightly enjoy the battle. They can be very good at bargaining for themselves, and at negotiating for more recognition or power, and are likely to have higher salaries and to earn more money, in consequence. People very low in agreeableness are therefore less likely to suffer from resentment or to harbour invisible anger. They let you know what they think, when they think it. In addition, because of their tendency to engage in conflict, when necessary, people low in agreeableness people tend not to sacrifice medium- to long-term stability and function for the sake of short-term peace. This means that problems that should be solved in the present are often solved, and do not accumulate counterproductively across time, although people close to those very low in agreeableness may often experience them as overbearing and uncaring.
Women are higher in agreeableness than men. The mean percentile for women in a general population (women and men) is 61.5. For men it is 38.5. The fact that men are lower in agreeableness than women helps explain their much higher rates of criminal incarceration (90% male). The primary difference between criminals and non-criminals is disagreeableness. If the typical criminal is more disagreeable than 98% of people in the general population, then almost all those criminals will be male. This difference in agreeableness between men and women is largest in countries such as Norway and Sweden, where the most has been done to ensure equality of outcome between the sexes. This provides strong evidence that biological factors rather than environment and learning account for the dissimilarity.
Agreeableness, per se, is not strongly associated with political liberalism or conservatism, but this is because the aspects of agreeableness predict such political belief in opposite ways, and cancel each other out. Liberals are higher in aspect compassion, and conservatives in aspect politeness. However, alliance with the category of belief that has come to be known as politically correct is strongly predicted by agreeableness (particularly compassion). What this appears to mean is that agreeable people strongly identify with those they deem oppressed, seeing them, essentially, as exploited infants, and demonize those they see as oppressors, seeing them as cruel, heartless predators.
There are large differences between men and women in terms of spontaneous interest, and these also appear associated with agreeableness. Agreeable people, caring as they do for others, are more likely to enter professions associated with people, such as teaching and nursing, which are dominated by women. This is true even in the Scandinavian countries, where attempts to produce gender-equal societies has reached a maximum. Disagreeable people, by contrast, appear to prefer systematizing over empathizing, and are more interested in things – machines and technology. In consequence, professions such as engineering and trades associated with construction and machinery tend to be dominated by relatively disagreeable men.
Agreeableness has two aspects: compassion and politeness.

Compassion: Low

You are low in compassion, which is one aspect of Agreeableness. Your score puts you at the 13th percentile for compassion. If you were one of 100 people in a room, you would be less compassionate than 86 of them and more compassionate than 13 of them.
Much less compassionate people are not primarily oriented towards the problems of other people or other living things. They are less swayed by cuteness. They are willing to make other people experience negative emotion by engaging in conflict and competition. They like to win, and will engage in confrontation to do so. They are substantially less concerned about helping other people. They make sure their own needs and interests are attended to, and are less willing to sacrifice for the sake of other people. This can make them harsh and unsympathetic. People might turn to them for the cold, hard truth, but not for a soft, patient, eternally-listening ear. They are less empathetic and caring. However, because they are not primarily other-oriented, they can often negotiate very effectively on their own behalf, and are likely to get at least what they deserve (for their hard work, for example). In consequence, they are unlikely to harbor feelings of resentment or hidden anger.
COMPASSION

13th percentile

You are less compassionate than 86 of 100 people
Those who are liberal, politically, score somewhat higher in compassion than conservatives.
Women are also higher in compassion than men. The mean percentile for women in a general population (women and men) is 61. For men it is 39.

Politeness: Very Low

You are very low in politeness, which is one aspect of Agreeableness. Your score puts you at the 7th percentile for politeness. If you were one of 100 people in a room, you would be less polite than 92 of them and more polite than 7 of them.
People who are very low in politeness are not at all deferential to authority – nor are they obedient. They can be respectful, grudgingly, but only to people who clearly deserve and demand it, and they are very markedly willing to push back when challenged. They are not uncomfortable confronting other people – in fact, they may enjoy it. People very low in politeness are not motivated to avoid conflict, or to steer clear of conflict or fights. They may find themselves frequently in trouble with authority, in consequence. Their skepticism can make it very difficult for them to find a place in the middle or lower in hierarchies of power and dominance. They tend very strongly to be dominant, rather than submissive (particularly if they are also low in neuroticism).
POLITENESS

7th percentile

You are less polite than 92 of 100 people
Those who are liberal, politically, score somewhat lower in politeness than conservatives (the opposite pattern is seen with compassion).
Women are higher in politeness than men. The mean percentile for women in a general population (women and men) is 59. For men it is 41.

Conscientiousness: Moderately Low

You are moderately low in conscientiousness, which is the primary dimension of dutiful achievement in the Big Five personality trait scientific model. Conscientiousness is a measure of obligation, attention to detail, hard work, persistence, cleanliness, efficiency and adherence to rules, standards and processes. Conscientious people implement their plans and establish and maintain order.
Your score puts you at the 25th percentile for conscientiousness. If you were one of 100 people in a room, you would be less conscientious than 74 of them and more conscientious than 25 of them.
People moderately low in conscientiousness are not particularly dutiful. They are by no means sloggers. They will only work hard if pushed, and don’t mind wasting time. They are quite likely to procrastinate (particularly if they are also above average in neuroticism). If people with moderately low levels of conscientiousness commit to doing something, there is a good chance they will be late, or delayed, even if there isn’t much reason for it. They tend to find and deliver excuses for their failure under such circumstances. They are not markedly decisive, neat, organized, future-oriented, or reliable, and they find themselves easily distracted.
CONSCIENTIOUSNESS

25th percentile

You are less conscientious than 74 of 100 people
People with moderately low levels of conscientiousness are less likely to obtain higher grades in academic settings (particularly if they are also less intelligent), and generally require substantial supervision to stay on task. For this reason, they make less than optimal managers and administrators. They do not feel compelled to do things by the book, however. This can perhaps be an advantage if they are engaged in creative tasks, where rules must be broken for advancement to take place. They are unlikely to make career accomplishment a primary goal, turning instead to pursuit of safety and security (if high in neuroticism), creative accomplishment (if high in openness), establishment of intimate relationships and friendships (if highly agreeable), or social success, excitement and fun (if extraverted).
People moderately low in conscientiousness tend to be relatively free of guilt, shame, self-disgust and self-contempt. Other people, however, may react negatively to their tendency to slack off (particularly if those other people are disagreeable and conscientious).
Individuals who are moderately low in conscientious are not particularly concerned by failure. They are not judgmental, to themselves or others, and tend towards situational explanations for disappointment, frustration or lack of success. They can handle periods of inactivity and unemployment with relative ease. They tend to downplay the relationship between hard work, diligence and success, believing that chance factors and luck in life play a determining role. They live, in large part, for leisure and very much look forward to time off. They can be good at relaxing, and living in the moment (particularly when low in neuroticism). They are less concerned than average with cleaning, moral purity and achievement. It’s more fun to be at the beach or at a party with a person moderately low in conscientiousness – but you might not want to invite them over on moving day.
People moderately low in conscientiousness are more likely to be political liberals rather than conservatives. This is particularly true if they are also high in openness.
Women are very slightly more conscientious than men. The mean percentile for women in a general population (women and men) is 51.5. For men it is 49.5.
Conscientiousness has two aspects: industriousness and orderliness.

Industriousness: Exceptionally Low

You are exceptionally low in industriousness, which is one aspect of conscientiousness. Your score puts you at the 1st percentile for industriousness. If you were one of 100 people in a room, you would be less industrious than 98 of them and more industrious than 1 of them.
People who are exceptionally low in industriousness are extremely unlikely to be successful in school and in administrative and managerial positions (particularly if they are also less intelligent). If they are highly intelligent, they will almost certainly be regarded as underachievers, by themselves and others. They don’t regard work as worthwhile or important, and are almost certain to procrastinate, miss deadlines, or fail to complete assignments or projects completely. They shirk all responsibility, concentrating on fun, worry, relationships, excitement or creative endeavor. They aren’t all concerned with or interested in schedules, timelines or efficiency, and are unlikely to complete their tasks even if supervised excessively. They lack focus and are far too-easily and continually distracted.
INDUSTRIOUSNESS

1st percentile

You are less industrious than 98 of 100 people
People exceptionally low in industriousness are not at all judgmental to themselves or others. They continually and habitually let people, including themselves, off the hook. They insist that people fail not because they don’t apply themselves or work hard but because chance and luck play the only determining roles. They are very resistant to guilt, self-disgust or self-contempt, and have a totally laissez-faire, whatever-will-be-will-be attitude toward life.
Those who are liberal and those who are conservatives appear equally industrious.
Men are slightly more industrious than women. The mean percentile for men in a general population (women and men) is 51.5. For women it is 49.5.

Orderliness: High

You are high in orderliness, which is one aspect of conscientiousness. Your score puts you at the 88th percentile for orderliness. If you were one of 100 people in a room, you would be more orderly than 88 of them and less orderly than 11 of them.
Highly orderly people tend to be disturbed and disgusted by mess and chaos. They keep everything tidy and organized. They tend to think in more black and white terms: things are good or bad, acceptable or unacceptable, with little room for grey areas. They make, like and stick to schedules. They want everything where it should be – and want to make sure it stays where it belongs. They are detail-oriented. They are rule-abiding, and tend to insist that rules are observed. They can be judgmental towards themselves and others if and when rules are broken or procedures ignored. They do not like to be without routine and predictability. They can be good at ensuring that complex sensitive processes are managed properly and carefully.
ORDERLINESS

88th percentile

You are more orderly than 88 of 100 people
Excessive orderliness can also constrain creativity (even among those high in openness) as creative endeavours often require mess, disruption and intervening periods of chaos.
Those who are highly orderly are also more likely to be political conservatives. Orderliness is the second-best predictor of conservatism, after openness to experience.
Women are more orderly than men. The mean percentile for women in a general population (women and men) is 54.5. For men it is 45.5. This may account for some of the trouble in relation to housework between women and men. Since women are, on average, more orderly, household disorder will trigger disgust and discomfort in them faster. This may happen with sufficient frequency so they end up doing a disproportionate share of such work (even though if they waited a bit longer their less orderly partners, often men, might end up equally troubled and motivated to fix the problem). Orderly people are more likely to have items such as event calendars, drawer organizers, laundry baskets, irons and ironing boards in their immediate environments.

Extraversion: Moderately Low

You are moderately low in extraversion, which is the primary dimension of positive emotion in the Big Five personality trait scientific model. You could also think of yourself as moderately high in introversion. Extraversion is a measure of general sensitivity to positive emotions such as hope, joy, anticipation and approach, particularly in social situations.
Your score puts you at the 37th percentile for extraversion. If you were one of 100 people in a room, you would be less extraverted than 62 of them and more extraverted than 37 of them.
People with moderately low levels of extraversion are not particularly enthusiastic, talkative, assertive in social situations, or gregarious. They tend to find excessive social contact draining and tiring, and crave time alone to recharge. They are less likely to plan parties, tell jokes, make people laugh, or volunteer for community activities. They are somewhat more likely to be depressed and to have lower levels of self-esteem (particularly if they are high in neuroticism). They are less optimistic about the past, present and future.
EXTRAVERSION

37th percentile

You are less extraverted than 62 of 100 people
People who are moderately low in extraversion find it relatively easy to keep things to themselves. They are not compelled to share everything with everyone. They are not particularly self-disclosing and do not warm up quickly to other people. They are more comfortable with one-to-one interactions than in a group-oriented situation. They are rarely the first to speak in meetings, although they will express an opinion if asked. They are less likely to captivate and convince, and will rarely be the first to act in an ambiguous situation.
People who are moderately low in extraversion are better suited to occupations that require work alone or with a few other well-known individuals (such as computer programming or accounting). Jobs involving sales, persuasion, work in groups and public speaking are unlikely to appeal to them, and they are less likely to be successful at such things (particularly if they are also high in neuroticism).
People moderately low in extraversion are relatively unlikely to be impulsive, even when offered the opportunity to do something exciting or fun. They are therefore less likely to sacrifice the future to the present, when something social or group-oriented beckons. They find it relatively easy to be alone to study and work. They are not easily distracted by opportunities to chat, joke and socialize. This is particularly the case if they are also high in conscientiousness. However, when people are introverted and conscientious, they are less productive than when extraverted and conscientiousness, perhaps because they have lower levels of energy. When introverted and comparatively unconscientiousness, however, they are more productive than when extraverted and unconscientious.
People moderately low in extraversion tend to be less dominant in social situations, particularly if they are also low in agreeableness. Less agreeable extraverts tend to be self-centered – something that can be made worse if they are also low in conscientiousness. More introverted people are somewhat protected against such tendencies.
Those who are politically liberal are slightly less extraverted than conservatives.
Women are slightly more extraverted than men. The mean percentile for women in a general population (women and men) is 52. For men it is 48.
Extraversion has two aspects: Enthusiasm and Assertiveness.

Enthusiasm: Moderately Low

You are moderately low in enthusiasm, which is one aspect of extraversion. Your score puts you at the 25th percentile for enthusiasm. If you were one of 100 people in a room, you would be less enthusiastic than 74 of them and more enthusiastic than 25 of them.
Individuals who are moderately low in enthusiasm are rarely excitable, not particularly easy to get to know, and not known for their talkative nature. When they do talk, it tends only to be about things in which they find particular interest. They do not easily open up to people, particularly in larger social gatherings or parties. They laugh more rarely than others. They tend to prefer solitude, although they can enjoy themselves around other people, in moderation. They are more private people, and are not particularly positive or optimistic. They do not crave the spotlight and, if creative, may find performing less desirable. They rarely seek out stimulation, excitement, activity or fun (and, if they do so, prefer quieter activities). People moderately low in enthusiasm are not gregarious or people-loving, and are not particularly positive about what might happen next .
ENTHUSIASM

25th percentile

You are less enthusiastic than 74 of 100 people
Enthusiasm is not strongly associated with political preference, either conservative or liberal.
Women are higher in enthusiasm than men. The mean percentile for women in a general population (women and men) is 55. For men it is 45.

Assertiveness: Typical or Average

You are typical or average in assertiveness, which is one aspect of extraversion. Your score puts you at the 52nd percentile for assertiveness. If you were one of 100 people in a room, you would be more assertive than 52 of them and less assertive than 47 of them.
People of average assertiveness will sometimes take charge, spontaneously, but often let others step in first. They can put forward their own opinions but do not feel compelled to do so. They are not particularly dominant and do not generally strive to control social situations. At times, they can act in an influential or captivating manner, but it is not habitual. They can act, in ambiguous situations, but will often let others lead the way. They tend not to be particularly impulsive, and tend not to act without thinking.
ASSERTIVENESS

52nd percentile

You are more assertive than 52 of 100 people
Liberals tend to be slightly less assertive than conservatives.
Women are slightly less assertive than men. The mean percentile for women in a general population (women and men) is 48. For men it is 52.

Neuroticism: Exceptionally High

You are exceptionally high in neuroticism, which is the primary dimension of negative emotion in the Big Five personality trait scientific model. Neuroticism is a measure of general sensitivity to negative emotions such as pain, sadness, irritable or defensive anger, fear and anxiety.
Your score puts you at the 99th percentile for neuroticism. If you were one of 100 people in a room, you would be higher in neuroticism than 99 of them and lower in neuroticism than 0 of them.
People with exceptionally high levels of neuroticism are more likely to think that things have gone wrong in the past, are going wrong now, and will continue to go wrong into the future. They are also more likely to be unhappy, anxious and irritable when just thinking or remembering, and when they encounter a genuine problem. They have unusually low levels of self-esteem, particularly when they are also low in extraversion. Neuroticism is a risk factor for anxiety disorders and depression.
NEUROTICISM

99th percentile

You are higher in neuroticism than 99 of 100 people
Exceptionally high levels of neuroticism are likely to interfere with both success and satisfaction in relationships and career, with the strongest effect on relationships. Exceptionally high levels of neuroticism are associated with constant concern about mental and physical health, far more physician and emergency room visits, and very frequent absenteeism at work and at school (particularly if accompanied by below average levels of conscientiousness).
People with exceptionally high levels of neuroticism appear to be extremely risk-averse, which means they will avoid recreational, career, financial and social situations where the possibility of loss is high. Such people appear to be unusually concerned with maintaining their current status, rather than enhancing it. Perhaps this is a good strategy in genuinely dangerous or uncertain times.
Neuroticism is not a powerful predictor of political belief, either conservative or liberal.
Females tend to be higher in neuroticism than males. The typical woman is higher in neuroticism than 60% of the general population of men and women combined. In part, this may be why women report more unhappiness in their relationships, at work, in school and with their health than men, on average, and why women initiate 70% of all divorces. This difference in neuroticism between men and women appears to emerge at puberty. It is largest in countries such as Norway and Sweden, where the most has been done to ensure equality of outcome between the sexes. This provides strong evidence that biological factors rather than environment and learning account for the dissimilarity.
Trait neuroticism is made up of the aspects withdrawal and volatility.

Withdrawal: Exceptionally High

You are exceptionally high in withdrawal, which is one aspect of neuroticism. Your score puts you at the 99th percentile for withdrawal. If you were one of 100 people in a room, you would be higher in withdrawal than 99 of them and lower in withdrawal than 0 of them.
Individuals exceptionally high in withdrawal may feel extreme levels of anticipatory anxiety. This makes it unusually challenging for them to approach new, uncertain, unexpected, threatening or complex situations. They are instead extremely more likely to avoid or withdraw in the face of the unknown and unexpected.
People exceptionally high in withdrawal are unusually more likely to feel sad, lonesome, disappointed and grief-stricken. They have exceptionally high levels of doubt and worry, become embarrassed easily, are self-conscious and get discouraged rapidly in the face of threat and punishment. Their anticipatory anxiety is extremely likely to be general. They are very sensitive to social rejection, and can be easily hurt. Once hurt, frightened, or anxious, as well, it takes them a long time to recover. Perhaps people exceptionally high in withdrawal are extremely concerned that something bad might happen, while people exceptionally high in volatility (the other aspect of neuroticism) get very upset if something bad does happen. Technically, withdrawal has been associated with activity in the brain systems that regulate passive avoidance.
WITHDRAWAL

99th percentile

You are higher in withdrawal than 99 of 100 people
Those who are liberal, politically, are slightly higher in withdrawal than conservatives.
Women are higher in withdrawal than men. The mean percentile for women in a general population (women and men) is 60. For men it is 40.

Volatility: Exceptionally High

You are exceptionally high in volatility, which is one aspect of neuroticism. Your score puts you at the 96th percentile for volatility. If you were one of 100 people in a room, you would be more volatile than 96 of them and less volatile than 3 of them.
Individuals exceptionally high in volatility tend to vary a great deal in their mood. They can be extremely irritable, reacting quite strongly to disappointment, frustration, pain and the threat of social isolation. They can lash out and are unusually easily annoyed. They are likely to act out or verbally express their frustration, disappointment and irritability. They can be exceptionally easily stirred up and upset and, once angry or irritated, take a comparatively long time to calm down. They may be argumentative and can lose their composure. Perhaps people exceptionally high in volatility get very upset if something bad does happen, while people high in withdrawal (the other aspect of neuroticism) are extremely concerned that something bad might happen. Technically, volatility has been associated with activity in the brain systems that regulate fight, flight or freeze.
VOLATILITY

96th percentile

You are more volatile than 96 of 100 people
Volatility is not strongly related to political preference, either liberal or conservative.
Women are higher in volatility than men. The mean percentile for women in a general population (women and men) is 57.5. For men it is 42.5.

Openness to Experience: Typical or Average

You are typical or average in openness to experience, which is the primary dimension of creativity, artistic interest and intelligence (particularly verbal intelligence) in the Big Five personality trait scientific model. Openness to experience is a measure of interest in novelty, art, literature, abstract thinking, philosophy as well as sensitivity to aesthetic emotions and beauty.
Your score puts you at the 49th percentile for openness to experience. If you were one of 100 people in a room, you would be higher in openness to experience than 49 of them and lower in openness to experience than 50 of them.
People with typical levels of openness to experience are as smart and creative as others, on average. They are not generally characterized as exploratory or visionary, but have their moments of insight and realization. They are sometimes interested in learning for its own sake and show some interest in acquiring new abilities and skills. They are not overwhelmingly curious, and are not strikingly interested in abstract thinking, philosophy, or the meaning of belief systems and ideologies. They will attend cultural events such as movies, concerts, dance recitals, plays, poetry readings, gallery openings and art shows, but do not find themselves compelled to do so. They sometimes enjoy writing and will occasionally enjoy encountering and trying to solve a complex problem, or explore abstract ideas.
OPENNESS TO EXPERIENCE

49th percentile

You are higher in openness to experience than 49 of 100 people
They tend to read an average amount – but more mainstream material. They have a normal range of interests, and a reasonable vocabulary. They can think and learn reasonably quickly. They sometimes find themselves formulating new ideas, and are articulate enough to get their thoughts across (particularly if average or above in extraversion). People average in openness now and then see old things in new ways, but are also satisfied with the tried-and-true. They can solve day-to-day problems well, and sometimes seek out a more difficult challenge.
People who are average or typical in openness to experience can adapt reasonably well to situations or occupations that are routinized and predictable. They have little trouble fitting in at the bottom of hierarchies. They can be better suited than those who are more open to entry-level, repetitive, rote positions, because they aren’t compelled to think up new ways to do things. They are not uncreative thinkers, but are less commonly known as creative or revolutionary. They rarely shake things up, particularly if they are also agreeable and less assertive.
Individuals average in openness to experience may be entrepreneurial in spirit, but they also appreciate conventional employment. They have no more than average interest in creating new ventures, whether for profit, curiosity, or personal transformation. At least moderately high levels of openness to experience appear necessary to the formation and leadership of business and other forms of complex organization, although conscientiousness appears required for the attention to detail and process management that such organizations also always need.
People typical in openness to experience have an average range of interests. This makes it relatively easy for them to settle on a single path in life, to specialize to a necessary degree, and to create an integrated identity (unless they are very high or above in neuroticism and/or very low or below in conscientiousness). People characterized by the combination of moderately high openness to experience and very high or above levels of neuroticism can undermine their own convictions and beliefs by questioning and making themselves lost and anxious. Open, unconscientious people tend to be “under-achievers” (particularly if also above average in neuroticism). Such people appear to have the capability to succeed, can learn quickly, and are creative, but they can have some trouble implementing their ideas.

Intellect: Low

Note: Do not confuse the personality aspect of Intellect with IQ. Intellect is a measure of interest in abstract ideas, essentially, while IQ is a measure of processing speed, verbal ability, working memory, and problem solving capacity, and is better measured with a formal IQ test. It is perfectly possible to have a high IQ and a low score on the personality trait of Intellect.
You are low in intellect, which is one aspect of openness to experience. Your score puts you at the 14th percentile for intellect. If you were one of 100 people in a room, you would be lower in intellect than 85 of them and higher in intellect than 14 of them.
People low in intellect are unlikely to be engaged with ideas and abstract concepts. They are less interested in learning philosophical concepts, seeing little use in them. People low in intellect do not appreciate too much information, particularly if it is complex. They are substantially less intellectually curious, and infrequently tackle and solve complex abstract problems. They are unlikely to engage in issue-oriented discussions, or to enjoy reading idea-centered books. They can be less articulate (particularly if average or lower in extraversion), experiencing some trouble formulating and communicating their ideas. They tend to have a vocabulary of less than normal breadth and depth, and are likely to stick with the tried-and-true, rather than learning new ideas and skills. They are less likely to enjoy being exposed to novel, creative concepts and are relatively uninterested in adapting to or seeking out new experiences and situations.
INTELLECT

14th percentile

You are lower in intellect than 85 of 100 people
People low in intellect rarely find complex, rapidly changing occupations to their liking, and are therefore more likely to fail at them (unless very high in conscientiousness and very low in neuroticism). They are much better suited to stable, straightforward and more traditional occupations, where the rules for success are well-defined and tend not to change.
Liberals are higher in intellect than conservatives (although the biggest difference between the two is openness to experience at the trait level).

Openness: High

You are high in openness, which is one aspect of openness to experience. Your score puts you at the 84th percentile for openness. If you were one of 100 people in a room, you would be higher in openness than 84 of them and lower in openness than 15 of them.
OPENNESS

84th percentile

You are higher in openness than 84 of 100 people
Highly open, creative people can be impractical and flighty, however (particularly if low in conscientiousness). It can be extremely difficult to transform creativity into money, or into a career. High levels of openness are, furthermore, necessary for entrepreneurial success, and often prove useful at the top of hierarchies, even in very conservative occupations such as banking, accounting and law, which need creative people in leadership positions to provide new vision and direction.
Liberals are higher in openness than conservatives (although the biggest difference between the two is openness to experience, at the trait level)
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2020.09.08 02:09 John_Charles_Fremont /r/neoliberal elects the American Presidents - Part 49, Bush v Dukakis in 1988

Previous editions:
(All strawpoll results counted as of the next post made)
Part 1, Adams v Jefferson in 1796 - Adams wins with 68% of the vote
Part 2, Adams v Jefferson in 1800 - Jefferson wins with 58% of the vote
Part 3, Jefferson v Pinckney in 1804 - Jefferson wins with 57% of the vote
Part 4, Madison v Pinckney (with George Clinton protest) in 1808 - Pinckney wins with 45% of the vote
Part 5, Madison v (DeWitt) Clinton in 1812 - Clinton wins with 80% of the vote
Part 6, Monroe v King in 1816 - Monroe wins with 51% of the vote
Part 7, Monroe and an Era of Meta Feelings in 1820 - Monroe wins with 100% of the vote
Part 8, Democratic-Republican Thunderdome in 1824 - Adams wins with 55% of the vote
Part 9, Adams v Jackson in 1828 - Adams wins with 94% of the vote
Part 10, Jackson v Clay (v Wirt) in 1832 - Clay wins with 53% of the vote
Part 11, Van Buren v The Whigs in 1836 - Whigs win with 87% of the vote, Webster elected
Part 12, Van Buren v Harrison in 1840 - Harrison wins with 90% of the vote
Part 13, Polk v Clay in 1844 - Polk wins with 59% of the vote
Part 14, Taylor v Cass in 1848 - Taylor wins with 44% of the vote (see special rules)
Part 15, Pierce v Scott in 1852 - Scott wins with 78% of the vote
Part 16, Buchanan v Frémont v Fillmore in 1856 - Frémont wins with 95% of the vote
Part 17, Peculiar Thunderdome in 1860 - Lincoln wins with 90% of the vote.
Part 18, Lincoln v McClellan in 1864 - Lincoln wins with 97% of the vote.
Part 19, Grant v Seymour in 1868 - Grant wins with 97% of the vote.
Part 20, Grant v Greeley in 1872 - Grant wins with 96% of the vote.
Part 21, Hayes v Tilden in 1876 - Hayes wins with 87% of the vote.
Part 22, Garfield v Hancock in 1880 - Garfield wins with 67% of the vote.
Part 23, Cleveland v Blaine in 1884 - Cleveland wins with 53% of the vote.
Part 24, Cleveland v Harrison in 1888 - Harrison wins with 64% of the vote.
Part 25, Cleveland v Harrison v Weaver in 1892 - Harrison wins with 57% of the vote
Part 26, McKinley v Bryan in 1896 - McKinley wins with 71% of the vote
Part 27, McKinley v Bryan in 1900 - Bryan wins with 55% of the vote
Part 28, Roosevelt v Parker in 1904 - Roosevelt wins with 71% of the vote
Part 29, Taft v Bryan in 1908 - Taft wins with 64% of the vote
Part 30, Taft v Wilson v Roosevelt in 1912 - Roosevelt wins with 81% of the vote
Part 31, Wilson v Hughes in 1916 - Hughes wins with 62% of the vote
Part 32, Harding v Cox in 1920 - Cox wins with 68% of the vote
Part 33, Coolidge v Davis v La Follette in 1924 - Davis wins with 47% of the vote
Part 34, Hoover v Smith in 1928 - Hoover wins with 50.2% of the vote
Part 35, Hoover v Roosevelt in 1932 - Roosevelt wins with 85% of the vote
Part 36, Landon v Roosevelt in 1936 - Roosevelt wins with 75% of the vote
Part 37, Willkie v Roosevelt in 1940 - Roosevelt wins with 56% of the vote
Part 38, Dewey v Roosevelt in 1944 - Dewey wins with 50.2% of the vote
Part 39, Dewey v Truman in 1948 - Truman wins with 65% of the vote
Part 40, Eisenhower v Stevenson in 1952 - Eisenhower wins with 69% of the vote
Part 41, Eisenhower v Stevenson in 1956 - Eisenhower wins with 60% of the vote
Part 42, Kennedy v Nixon in 1960 - Kennedy wins with 63% of the vote
Part 43, Johnson v Goldwater in 1964 - Johnson wins with 87% of the vote
Part 44, Nixon v Humphrey in 1968 - Humphrey wins with 60% of the vote
Part 45, Nixon v McGovern in 1972 - Nixon wins with 56% of the vote
Part 46, Carter v Ford in 1976 - Carter wins with 71% of the vote
Part 47 - Carter v Reagan v Anderson in 1980 - Carter wins with 44% of the vote
Part 48, Reagan v Mondale in 1984 - Mondale wins with 55% of the vote
Welcome back to the forty-ninth edition of /neoliberal elects the American presidents!
This will be a fairly consistent weekly thing - every week, a new election, until we run out.
I highly encourage you - at least in terms of the vote you cast - to try to think from the perspective of the year the election was held, without knowing the future or how the next administration would go. I'm not going to be trying to enforce that, but feel free to remind fellow commenters of this distinction.
If you're really feeling hardcore, feel free to even speak in the present tense as if the election is truly upcoming!
Whether third and fourth candidates are considered "major" enough to include in the strawpoll will be largely at my discretion and depend on things like whether they were actually intending to run for President, and whether they wound up actually pulling in a meaningful amount of the popular vote and even electoral votes. I may also invoke special rules in how the results will be interpreted in certain elections to better approximate historical reality.
While I will always give some brief background info to spur the discussion, please don't hesitate to bring your own research and knowledge into the mix! There's no way I'll cover everything!
George Bush v Michael Dukakis, 1988
Profiles
  • George Bush is the 64-year-old Republican candidate and the current Vice President. His running mate is US Senator from Indiana Dan Quayle.
  • Michael Dukakis is the 55-year-old Democratic candidate and the Governor of Massachusetts. His running mate is US Senator from Texas Lloyd Bentsen.
Issues and Background
  • Two years ago, a Lebanese magazine exposed an arrangement in which the United States appeared to attempt to trade arms for hostages with the current Iranian regime, despite the current arms embargo on Iran. Within a month, it further became clear that profits from these weapons sales were made available to assist the Contras in Nicaragua, assistance that had been prohibited by Congress. President Reagan tasked a commission with investigating the matter, which confirmed the allegations. Days after the report was released, President Reagan spoke to the American people, saying:
    A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not. As the Tower board reported, what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages. This runs counter to my own beliefs, to administration policy, and to the original strategy we had in mind.
    • Vice President Bush has repeatedly characterized himself as out of the loop, saying, "I've said all along I didn't know about the diversion of funds." He does admit being aware of the arms sales generally. He has also said that the President should not be "precluded from soliciting" aid for groups like the Contras from private or foreign actors. Early this year, Bush had a combative interview with Dan Rather on the subject, when Bush took issue with the segment on the Iran-Contra affair that aired before the interview, saying it impugned his integrity. Asked by Rather how he could sign on to such a policy, Bush said:
      I'll tell you how I could. The same reason the president signed on to it. When a CIA agent is being tortured to death, maybe you err a bit on the side of human life. But everybody's admitted mistakes. I've admitted mistakes. And you want to dwell on them. And I want to talk about the values we believe in, and the experience and the integrity that goes with all of this. And what I'm going to do about education. There's nothing new here. I thought this was a news program.
    • Dukakis has questioned Bush's characterization of himself as out of the loop, saying in one news conference:
      Mr. Bush, you sat through five meetings on this subject. How can you say now that you did not know this was a straight arms-for-hostages deal?
  • As Governor, Dukakis was a strong supporter of a state inmate furlough program which had started before his time as Governor. After the Massachusetts legislature passed legislation banning those convicted of first-degree murder from such furloughs, Dukakis vetoed the bill, arguing it would defeat the rehabilitative purpose of such furloughs.
    • Bush and his allies have highlighted the case of William Horton, who was convicted of murder and sentenced to life without parole for killing a 17-year-old gas station attendant during a robbery. Horton was released on a weekend furlough program but never returned to prison. Almost a year later, Horton was convicted of raping a woman after assaulting and restraining her fiancé. He was sentenced again to life in prison in Maryland by a judge who refused to return Horton to Massachusetts on the chance that he could be released again.
    • Dukakis and his allies have pointed out that 45 states as well as the federal prison system allow some kind of furloughs, and at least 16 states offer furloughs to some first-degree murderers. Dukakis has recently signed legislation in opposition to his earlier veto, now banning furloughs for first-degree murderers. Bush has accurately pointed out that before this legislation, while Massachusetts was not the only state granting furloughs to first-degree murderers (as he had at one point incorrectly claimed) it was the only state granting them to inmates sentenced to life without parole. The Dukakis campaign has further argued that the Massachusetts furlough-escape rate is below the national average, and they have also pointed out Massachusetts' recently falling crime rates.
    • Further, Democrats have run their own "halfway house" ad in response, attacking Bush for helping create and obtain funding for a halfway house for paroled and early-release felons, one of whom went on to be convicted of rape and murder. Democrats point out that Bush continued to praise the halfway house and similar programs a year after the murder.
    • Lloyd Bentsen, Jesse Jackson, and others have argued that the advertisements run by the Bush campaign and other independent groups on the furlough program have racial undertones. Bush has rejected this argument, saying, "there isn't any racism ... It's absolutely ridiculous and everybody sees this as some desperation kind of move." Bush has further asked whether this means that Democrats' halfway house ad is racism against Hispanics.
  • This year, evidence emerged that the CIA made large payments to de facto leader of Panama, Manuel Noriega. Bush has said he didn't know about Noriega's involvement with illegal drug trafficking until early this year when Noriega was indicted in Florida. Information about Noriega's connections has appeared in some intelligence briefing materials since 1983, but it is unclear whether or not Bush came into contact with this particular material. Bush has further said that "it is our administration that is trying to bring this man to justice, once we found out he had gone bad." Dukakis has regularly attacked Bush on the subject of Noriega, having said, "you can't be serious about waging a real war against drugs when you have an administration that can't say no to Noriega."
  • Bush made a bold pledge in his nomination acceptance speech, saying:
    And I'm the one who will not raise taxes. My opponent now says he'll raise them as a last resort or a third resort. When a politician talks like that, you know that's one resort he'll be checking into. My opponent won't rule out raising taxes, but I will, and the Congress will push me to raise taxes, and I'll say no, and they'll push, and I'll say no, and they'll push again, and I'll say to them, "Read my lips: no new taxes."
    Dukakis argues that this pledge is not credible, as the Reagan Administration has already approved of some tax increases over the past couple years. He has also expressed concerns about the implications for the national debt, saying:
    Now if we continue with these policies, this trillion and a half dollars worth of new debt that’s already been added on the backs of the American taxpayer is going to increase even more, and if we continue with this for another four years, then I’m worried about the next generation, whether we can ever turn this situation around.
  • Boston Harbor has been called by Bush and many others "the dirtiest harbor in America." At one point, Dukakis had fought for a waiver from the Clean Water Act. The Bush campaign has used Boston Harbor to attack Dukakis' environmental record as Massachusetts Governor, with Bush saying in a campaign stop at the harbor itself:
    While Michael Dukakis delayed, the harbor got dirtier and dirtier. Half a billion gallons of barely treated sewage a day into the harbor; 70 tons of sewage sludge per day into the harbor; PCBs into the harbor; trace metals into the harbor...
    The Dukakis campaign argues that this has been a long-time issue and that while many Massachusetts governors have "turned their back" on Boston Harbor, Dukakis is the one who has actually tried to do something about it. It is true that Dukakis has now presided over the start of a massive construction project designed to stop the dumping of sewage and sludge in the harbor, but some environmental activists argue this is only because of lawsuits that have been filed in state and federal courts.
  • The death penalty has come up in both the debates and campaign advertisements. Bush believes that some crime are "'so heinous, so brutal and so outrageous'' that execution is necessary, while Dukakis argues it is ineffective in reducing violent crime. Significant controversy surrounded both Bernard Shaw's question and Dukakis' answer on a question about the death penalty in the second debate, with Kitty Dukakis calling the question "theater and inappropriate." See the excerpts from the second debate for the question and answer.
  • In his nomination acceptance speech, Vice President Bush made an issue of Dukakis' veto as Governor of a bill that would have required teachers (by penalty of a fine) to lead schoolchildren in reciting the Pledge of Allegiance, with Bush asking, "what is it about the Pledge of Allegiance that upsets him so much?" Dukakis says he supports the Pledge of Allegiance but believes the bill was unconstitutional.
  • In September, the Dukakis campaign set up a campaign stop in Michigan including a photo op in which Dukakis would ride in a tank. Here is one of the photos. The Bush campaign has used the footage and photos in their ads.
  • Very recently in October, Dukakis' deputy field field director Donna Brazile told a group of reporters that Bush needed to "fess up" about an alleged (and unsubstantiated) extramarital affair with an assistant, further saying, "the American people have every right to know if Barbara Bush will share that bed with him in the White House." Shortly after, the Dukakis campaign disavowed her comments and fired her.
  • While not always going into specifics, the Dukakis campaign has attacked the Republican VP nominee Dan Quayle as inexperienced and incompetent. Bush has continually articulated confidence in his running mate. Quayle has also been attacked following revelations that a family connection helped get him into the National Guard at the height of the Vietnam War, and that he gained admission to law school through an affirmative action "second chance" program primarily intended for minorities and the economically disadvantaged. The Bush campaign points out that in both cases, Quayle technically did not break any rules.
  • Despite having once been considered a moderate on the issue, Bush himself admits to an "evolution" on the issue of abortion and has generally maintained something closer to the more restrictive stance that President Reagan has held. Bush supports a constitutional amendment that would ban most abortions, but supports exceptions for rape, incest and the life of the mother. Dukakis is pro-choice.
  • Dukakis has gone hard against Bush and Quayle on the issue of trade, particularly with Japan. Dukakis has called for "economic patriotism," has criticized Bush for calling economic relations with Japan "superb," and has mocked Dan Quayle for saying that foreign investment produces American jobs. On the Reagan Administration's trade policies, Dukakis has said:
    They ignored the unfair practices of our trade rivals. Their reckless fiscal policies drove up the value of the dollar, pricing our exports out of foreign markets and flooding America with cheap imports.
    Further, Dukakis has said:
    In the first four years of the Dukakis-Bentsen administration, we'll turn that trade deficit back into a trade surplus, and reclaim those jobs for American workers.
    Dukakis says this will be accomplished by opening foreign markets to American goods through a doctrine of reciprocity as "a cornerstone of trade policy" as well as by investing in education, training, research and development. Bush has criticized Dukakis' trade policy as protectionism in disguise. Bush aides have indicated that Bush will continue the trade policies that characterized the last few years of the Reagan Administration, with an added emphasis on job training.
Debate Excerpts
Quotations in excerpt titles refer to moderator's prompt, block quotations are from named candidate(s).
First Presidential Debate (full transcript)
(1) Bush on what it is about "these times that drives or draws so many Americans to use drugs":
I think we’ve seen a deterioration of values. I think for a while as a nation we condoned those things we should have condemned. For a while, as I recall, it even seems to me that there was talk of legalizing or decriminalizing marijuana and other drugs, and I think that’s all wrong ... We have to change this whole culture. You know, I saw a movie – “Crocodile Dundee.” And I saw the cocaine scene treated with humor, as though this was a humorous little incident. And it’s bad. Everybody ought to be in this thing. Entertainment industry, people involved in the schools, education.
(2) Dukakis on programs that he is "willing to cut to bring that deficit down":
I’ve suggested that there are certain weapons systems which we don’t need and we can’t afford ... Secondly, we’ve got to invest in economic growth in this country ... And, finally, we’ve got to go out there and collect billions and billions of dollars in taxes owed that aren’t being paid to this country ... The thing I don’t understand about Mr. Bush’s approach to this is how he could possibly be serious about bringing that deficit down given what he says he wants to do. He seems to want to spend a great deal of money on just about every weapon system; he says he’s against new taxes, although he’s broken that pledge at least times in the last year that I know of; he wants to give the wealthiest taxpayers in this country a five year, $40 billion tax break. He also wants to spend a lot of money on additional programs. If he keeps this up, he’s going to be the Joe Isuzu of American politics.
...
(BUSH in rebuttal): Is this the time to unleash our one-liners? That answer was about as clear as Boston harbor.
(3) Bush on his pledge "not to raise taxes of any kind" and whether he is concerned about the deficit:
...we’ve got to get the Democrats – Congress under control. They do all the spending, they appropriate every dime and tell us how to spend every dime. I’d like to ask the Governor to join in getting for the president what 43 governors have, the line-item veto. He has to operate in Massachusetts under a balanced budget proviso. I would like a balanced budget amendment.
(4) Dukakis on the "theme that keeps coming up about the way you govern is passionless, technocratic":
Peter, I care deeply about people, all people, working people, working families, people all over this country who in some cases are living from paycheck to paycheck, in other cases are having a hard time opening up the door of college opportunity to their children, in other cases, don't have basic health insurance which for most of us we accept as a matter of course and assume we're going to have in order to pay the bills that we incur when we get sick. I'm somebody who believes deeply in genuine opportunity for every single citizen in this country and that's the kind of passion I brought to my state.
(5) Bush on whether he is attempting to "brand" Dukakis by repeatedly emphasizing Dukakis' self-description as a "card-carrying" member of the ACLU:
But I don't agree with a lot of the - most of the positions of the ACLU ... I don't want my 10-year-old grandchild to go into an X-rated movie. I like those ratings systems. I don't think they're right to try to take the tax exemption away from the Catholic Church. I don't want to see the kiddie pornographic laws repealed. I don't want to see under God come out from our currency. Now, these are all positions of the ACLU, and I don't agree with them.
He has every right to exercise his passion, as what he said, a strong progressive liberal. I don't agree with that. I come from a very different point of view, and I think I'm more in touch with the mainstream of America.
(6) Dukakis on what he will do in a situation in which Americans are taken hostage:
But if there's one thing we also understand, it is that you cannot make concessions to terrorists - ever - because if you do it's an open invitation to other terrorists to take hostages and to blackmail us.
And that's the tragedy of the Iran-contra scandal. As a matter of fact, Mr. Bush was the chairman of a task force on international terrorism which issued a report shortly before that decision was made, and said, and rightly so, that we never, ever, can make concessions to terrorists and hostage takers.
And yet after sitting through meeting after meeting, he endorsed that decision, endorsed the sale of arms to the Ayatollah in exchange for hostages - one of the most tragic, one of the most mistaken foreign policy decisions we've ever made in this country, and I dare say encouraged others to take hostages, as we now know.
Vice Presidential Debate (full transcript)
(1) Bentsen on his disagreements with Dukakis on aid to the Nicaraguan Contras; Dukakis has called the aid policy "immoral and illegal":
Governor Dukakis and I have disagreed on the contra program, no question about that. But my big difference with this Administration is they look at the contra aid program as the only way to resolve that problem. They concentrate on that. And I really think we have to give peace a chance. And that's why I've been a strong supporter of the Arias plan - a plan that won the Nobel Prize for President Arias, the President of Costa Rica.
(2) Quayle rebutting Bentsen on the subject of campaign finance reform:
Senator Bentsen is the No. 1 PAC raiser. As a matter of fact, he used to have a $10,000 breakfast club. A $10,000 breakfast club. It only cost high-paid lobbyists, special interests in Washington, to come down and have breakfast with the chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, the one that oversees all the tax loopholes in the Tax Code, $10,000. I'm sure they weren't paying to have corn flakes.
(3) Bentsen on why the American people should want a change after seeing "lower interest rates, lower unemployment, lower inflation and arms control deal with the Soviet Union":
You know, if you let me write $200 billion worth of hot checks every year, I could give you an illusion of prosperity too. This is an Administration that has more than doubled the national debt, and they've done that in less than eight years. They have taken this country from the No. 1 lender nation in the world to the No. 1 debtor nation in the world. And the interest on that debt next year, on this Reagan-Bush debt of the nation, is going to be $640 for every man, woman and child in America, because of this kind of a credit card mentality.
(4) Quayle/Bentsen exchange on experience:
QUAYLE: ...I have far more experience than many others that sought the office of Vice President this country. I have as much experience in the Congress as Jack Kennedy did when he sought the Presidency.
...
BENTSEN: Senator, I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you're no Jack Kennedy.
...
QUAYLE: That was really uncalled for, Senator.
BENTSEN: You're the one that was making the comparison, Senator. And I'm one who knew him well. And frankly I think you're so far apart in the objectives you choose for your country that I did not think the comparison was well taken.
Second Presidential Debate (full transcript)
(1) The first question of the debate and Dukakis' answer:
SHAW: Governor, if Kitty Dukakis were raped and murdered, would you favor an irrevocable death penalty for the killer?
DUKAKIS: No, I don't, Bernard, and I think you know that I've opposed the death penalty during all of my life. I don't see any evidence that it's a deterrent and I think there are better and more effective ways to deal with violent crime. We've done so in my own state and it's one of the reasons why we have had the biggest drop in crime of any industrial state in America, why we have the lowest murder rate of any industrial state in America.
(2) Bush on the prospect of Dan Quayle becoming President:
I'd have confidence in him. And I made a good selection. And I've never seen such a pounding, an unfair pounding, on a young Senator in my entire life. And I've never seen a Presidential campaign where the Presidential nominee runs against my Vice-Presidential nominee. Never seen one before ... He founded the - authored the Job Training Partnership Act that says to American working men and women that are thrown out of work for no fault of their own that they're going to have jobs ... He, unlike my opponent, is an expert in national defense - helped amend the I.N.F. treaty, so we got a good sound treaty when these people over here were talking about a freeze.
(3) Dukakis on whether he is "likable" enough:
I won the Democratic nomination in 51 separate contests. I think I'm a reasonably likable guy. I'm serious, though I think I'm a little more lovable these days than I used to be back in my youthe when I began in my state legislature.
But I'm also a serious guy. I think the Presidency of the United States is a very serious office. And I think we have to address these issues in a very serious way.
(4) Bush on who he thinks the heroes in America today are:
I think of a teacher right here. Largely Hispanic school. Jaime Escalante, teaching calculus to young kids, 80 percent of them going on to college. I think of a young man, now in this country, named Valladares, who was released from a Cuban jail, came out and told the truth in this brilliant book ''Against All Hope'' about what is actually happening in, in Cuba. I think of those people that took us back into space again, Rick Hauck, and that crew, as people that are worthy of this ... I think of Dr. Fauci. You've probably never heard of him. Oh, you did. Ann heard of him. He's a very fine research - top doctor at National Institute of Health - working hard doing something about research on this disease of AIDS.
(5) Dukakis rebuttal to Bush's answer related to appointing judges:
If the Vice President of the United States thinks that Robert Bork was an outstanding appointment, that is a very good reason for voting for Mike Dukakis and Lloyd Bentsen on the 8th of November. And I think Mr. Bush supported the Bork nomination.
You know, Mr. Bush has never appointed a judge. I've appointed over 130, so I have a record. And I'm very proud of it. I don't ask people whether they're Republicans or Democrats. I've appointed prosecutors. I've appointed defenders. I don't appoint people I think are liberal or people who think I --who think -- who I think are conservative. I appoint people of independence and integrity and intelligence, people who will be a credit to the bench. And those are the standards that I will use in nominating people to the Supreme Court of the United States.
(6) Bush rebuttal to Dukakis' answer on nuclear plants:
That is the closest I've ever heard the Governor of Massachusetts come to support anything having to do with nuclear. That's about as close as I've ever heard him. Yes, this Savannah River plant need - needs to be more safe. Will he join me in suggesting that we may need another plant, maybe in Idaho, to take care of the requirements - nuclear material requirements - for our Defense Department? I hope he will. This sounds like real progress here because we've had a big difference on the safe use of nuclear power for our energy base.
I believe that we must use clean, safe nuclear power. I believe that we - the more dependent we become on foreign oil, the less our national security is enhanced. And therefore, I've made some proposals to strengthen the domestic oil industry by more incentive going in to look for and find and produce oil; made some incentives in terms of secondary and tertiary production. But we're going to have to use more gas, more coal and more safe nuclear power for our energy base.
Platforms
Read the full 1988 Republican platform here.
Read the full 1988 Democratic platform here.
Videos
Debates
First Presidential Debate
Vice Presidential Debate
Second Presidential Debate
Speeches and Interviews
Dukakis nomination acceptance speech
Bush nomination acceptance speech
Bush interview with Dan Rather on Iran-Contra affair
Dukakis CBS roundtable interview
Advertisements
PAC "Willie Horton" anti-Dukakis ad
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Dukakis "Massachusetts miracle" ad
Dukakis long-form ad
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2020.09.07 16:45 jonnytech [TX][H] Silver Age X-Men Omnibus Set! Vol 1 (Ross Cover) and 2 (Cassaday cover) - both still sealed in excellent condition; Ultimate FF TPB Set 1-11, Galactus 1-3 TPB, more!; + LABOR DAY SINGLES SALE (25% off) [W] paypal, Houston area pickup and international shipping is available

Labor Day Singles Sale - 25% off purchases of single issues over $20 (buy pays exact shipping)

Silver Age X-Men Omnibus set info - Vol 1 (Ross Cover) and Vol 2 (Cassaday Cover)
Both are still sealed in original shrink and in excellent shape
I am asking $729 for the set, that INCLUDES paypal fees and USPS priority shipping/insurance to the USA. Local Pick up in the Houston TX area is available. I would be happy to ship international at the buyers expense.
That price is pretty firm. Not looking to split the set right now (unless blown away with an offer). However, I would entertain a trade/partial trade. I can also throw in some singles listed below if that helps expedite a sale
Here are pictures from all angles - LINK
Be advised this set is cross posted in several places... thanks for looking!

Other New stuff
- Large Set of Legion of superheroes issues
- Large Set of John Sable (Grell) issues
- Complete set of Ultimate Fantastic Four TPB - Vol 1-11 and Ultimate Galactus 1-3
- Set of Spirit Archives HCs
- Suicide Squad TPB (Ostrander) Vol 1, 2
- The Spectre (Ostrander) VOl 2
- Teen Titans (post Rebirth by Glass) TPB Set Vol 1, 2, 3 (full throttle, Turn it up, seek and destroy)
- Dark Avengers Complete Collection TPB

Buyer to pay exact shipping, Pick up in Houston, TX area available
Prices are fairly flexible, especially for multiple purchases. Willing to break sets if the split makes sense. Cross-posted to other places. Ebay user feedback: Jonnytech
Pictures (can provide more on request, If it's not on this list its not available anymore)
Here are few things i'd be willing to trade for, send list and I can look: Spirit Archives 14, Absolute Ronin, Absolute Wildcats, Newsboys Legion Vol 2 HC (Kirby), Legion - Enemy Manifest, Rising Stars Compendium, Ultimate FF HC 6, Ultimatum Deluxe HC
Amazing Spider-Man issues 194 and under, Uncanny X-Men 136 and under, 1990's Green Lantern (22 and up).
Misc Essential Volumes: Amazing Spiderman 1, 2, 11; Fantastic Four 3, 8, 9; Avengers 1, 2, 8, 9; Daredevil 1, 3-6; Classic X-Men 1, Uncanny X-Men 1, 4-11; Defenders 2-7; Marvel Team up 3, 4
It's a long for sale list...

-----Trades and HCs (buyer to pay exact shipping)-------
Absolutes/Omnibus/Deluxe
Absolute Batman Reborn (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($125)
Absolute Batman Incorporated (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($75)
Absolute Dark Knight Returns (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($60)
Absolute Superman - For Tomorrow (Sealed in new condition) ($60)
Power Rangers - Year One - Deluxe (Boom) ($80)
Power Rangers - Shattered Grid - Deluxe (Boom) ($50)
Star Wars - Classic UK Omnibus (good condition with normal shelf wear) ($50)

Ultimate Universe (Marvel)
Ultimate Fantastic Four TPB Complete Set - Vol 1-11 ($99 set)
Ultimate Galactus TPB complete Set - Book 1, 2, 3 ($25 set)
Ultimates 3 + Ultimate Premier sized HC Set ($40 set)
Ultimate X-Men Vol 5 - Ultimate War ($3) - will include free with either set

Marvel Universe HC/TPB
See top of Post for info on Silver Age X-Men Omnibus Vol 1 and 2 Set
Dark Avengers Complete Collection TBP (Bendis, $60)
Ant Man by Nick Spencer Complete TPB Set ($30)
Cloak and Dagger complete collection TPB Set ($30 Set)
Avengers - The Initiative - Complete Collection set - Vol 1 and 2 ($59 set)
Star Wars - A New Hope 40th Anniversary HC (variant cover collection) ($14, in shrink)
Age of Ultron (Bendis) TPB ($10)
New Avengers Vol Premier HC vol 2 (2011 second series) ($5)
Captain America – American Nightmare – Premier HC ($5)
All-New, All-Different Avengers Vol 1 - Magnificent Seven ($4)

X-Men TPBs
Wolverine – Origin II oversized HC ($10)
Weapon X Vol 1 TPB - Weapons of Mutant Destruction Prelude ($4)
Wolverines Complete TPB Set ($30)
Death of Wolverine TPB Tie-in Set ($25)
New X-Men - Academy X (DeFilippis/Weir) Complete TPB Set ($35 Set)
New X-Men: Childhoods End (Kyle/Yost) - Complete TPB Set Vol 1-5 ($50 Set)
X-Men: Inferno - Complete Collections TPB Vol 1 and 2 set (vol 1 has a ding on bottom spine corner) ($75 Set)
Marvel Spidy TPB
Daily Bugle TPB (2017 version) (includes Daily bugle 1-4, Deadline 1-4, more) - ($10)
Untold Tales of Spider-Man TPB (1996 edition, 1-8, major shelf wear) - ($5)
Spider-Man and Daredevil – Greatest Team-ups (1996, major shelf wear) - ($5)

Marvel Thanos TPB/HC
Thanos: Cosmic Power TPB ($15)
Thanos – A god up There Listening – oversized HC ($7)
Thanos Imperative TPB ($10)
Thanos Rising TPB ($5)

DC Misc HC’s / TPB
Spirit Archives 9, 10, 11, 22, 24, 25, 26 (all new in shrink, $175 for set, will split 9-11 out)
Newsboys Legion Vol 1 HC (DC Kirby Library) - ($25)
Green Lantern - Agent Orange HC - ($15)
Justice League United Vol 2 HC - Infinitus Saga ($7)
Superman Unchained – Deluxe HC (SnydeLee) ($10, minor shelf wear on jacket)
Superman / Wonder Woman (New 52) Vol 1 HC – Power Couple - ($15)
Teen Titans (New 52) TPB – The Culling – Rise of the Ravagers - ($13)
Earth 2 (New 52) Vol 1 HC– The Gathering TPB - ($10)
Super Sons - Rebirth Complete TPB Set ($29 Set)
Teen Titans post-Rebirth TPB Set ($29 Set)
Suicide Squad (Ostrander) TPB Set ($27 Set)
The Spectre (Ostrander) Vol 2 - Wrath of God TPB ($20)
Justice League 3000 TPB set ($30 set)
Red Hood and the Outlaws - New 52 TPB Set ($35 set)
I, Vampire - New 52 complete TPB Set ($25 set)

DC Batman HCs/TPB
Batman Earth One – Vol 1 TPB ($9)
Batman - The Dark Prince Charming HC Vol 1 and 2 (Marini, Dargaud) ($25 set)
Catwoman – Nine Lives of a Feline Fatale (minor cover creasing, shelf wear, $20)
Batman – Gotham County Line TPB ($10)
Batman – Dark Knight Returns TPB (2002 version) ($7)
Batman – Gotham By Gaslight TPB (2006 edition, includes Master of the Future) ($6)
Batman - Master of the Future (1991 Prestige Format elseworlds, gaslight sequel)) ($3)
Batman and Robin – New 52 Vol 1 Bad Blood – Essential Edition TPB (Tomasi/Gleason, same contents as “Born to Kill” TPB) ($12)
Batman - In Darkest Knight (Prestige Format elseworlds) ($5)
Batman - Scottish Connection (Prestige Format) ($5)

Other
RASL Vol 1 - The Drift (TPB, B&W Treasury size) ($5)

------SINGLES------- Buyer pays exact shipping
Legion of Super-Heroes Collection
LOSH 1st series –
Superboy and the Legion of Super-heroes – 207 (VG/F), 210 (G), 212 (VG), 213 (no cover), 215 (no cover), 218 (G+), 220 (VG), 224 (G+), 228 (G), 230 (G), 233 (no cover), 234 (VG/F), 236 (F), 237 (VG/F), 238 (reader) ($23 set)
Legion of Super-heroes – 270 (VG), 279 (VG), 280 (VG), 283 (VG), 289 (F), 296 (VG), 297 (F), 298 (VG), 299 (F), 300 (VG), 301 (F), 302 (VG/F), 303 (F), 305 (F), 306 (VG), 310 (F), 311 (F), 312 (F), 313 (F+), annual 3 (F+) ($20 set)
Tales of the Legion of Superheroes – 326 (F-, 1st reprint), 327 (x2, F), 328 (VG+), 329 (F), 346 (F), 350 (F), 352 (G) ($5 set)
LOSH 2nd Series (Levitz) –5 (F), 6 (F), 10 (F), 11 (F), 14 (VF), 17 (VF), 18 (VF, crisis), 40 (F), 43 (VF) 44 (VF/NM), 45 (F+), 47 (VF), 60 (VF), 61 (VF), 63 (VF), Legion of Substitute Heroes Special 1 (F, 1985) ($15 set)
LOSH 3d Series (1989) – 1 (VF), 2 (VF), 5 (VF), 25 (VF), 26 (VF), 41 (VF), Annual 1 (VF-), Annual 2 (VF-) ($12 set)
Legionnaires – 1 (open bag w/ Computo card), 2, 3 – AVG VF ($5 set)

New Teen Titans Collection -
If there are single issues you need let me know, I have a stack of doubles i can check
Teen Titans (1970’s) – 44 (no cover), 45 (no cover), 46 (no cover), 47 (G), 48 (no cover), 50 (G) - $7 set
New Teen Titans (vol 1) – 7, 8, 9, 11, 12, 13, 16 (1st Zoo Crew), 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26 (1st Terra), 27, 28, 29, 30, 31 (VF), 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, (becomes “Tale of”) 41, 42, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, (reprints start) 60, 67, 71, 78, 80, 81, 82, 84, 85 (avg F, all about the same condition, $95 for set)
Teen Titans Spotlight (1986) – 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 18, 21 (set avg F, $8 set)
New teen Titans (Vol 2, 1984) – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 37, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 47 (F to VF, $38 for set)
New Titans (continued from New Teen Titans vol 2) – 65, 67, 68, 69, 70, 71 (F), 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79, 80, 81, 82, 83, 84, 85, 87, 88, 89, 90, 91, 93, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 100, 101, 102, 103, 104, 105, 107, 108, 109, 117,annual 6, 7, 8, 9 (VF or better, $79 for set)
Team Titans (1992) – 1 (x5 cover set), 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15 (VF or better, $19 set)
Teen Titans (1996) – 1, 2, 3, 4 (VF or better, $8 set)
The Titans (1999) - 23, 24 - $4 set

Justice League Collection
Justice League of America (Vol 1) sets:
Giffen/Dematteis Run (condition VF or better if not listed) - $100 for the set
Post Giffen/Dematteis - $39 set
JLA (1997) - 28, 29, 30, 31 ($5 set)

West Coast Avengers + Extras - $35 set

X-Men Bronze/Copper Singles
Cable – 1 (x2), 2, 3, 15, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 30, 32, 51 (VF or better, $15 set)
X-Man – 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 13, 18, 20, 21, 22, 26 (F), 29 (VG), 33, 38 (VG) – (VF or better, $10 set)
Uncanny X-Men – 215 (VF), 216 (F+), 218 (F), 224 (F), 278 (F), 280 (x2, F, VF), 281 (VF/NM), 283 (VF/NM), 285 (F+), 286 (VF/NM), 289 (F+), 290 (VF-), 300 (VF-), 310 (F+), Annual 15 (VF) ($19 set)
X-Factor –
Excalibur – 33 (F), 34, 35, 42 (VG), 43, 46, 47, 50, 60, 70 (VG), 73, 92, 93, 103, 104, 105, 106, 107, 115, -1 - (VF or better, $18 set)
Magneto 0 (1993) - $2
Generation X – 1, 4, 5 (x2), 6, 18, 21 (VF or better) – ($7 set)

Marvel Singles
Warlock/Infinity War Set ($30 Set)
Micronauts – The New Voyages – 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 15 – all F ( set for $5)
Hercules – Prince of Power 1984 mini – 1 (x2 DM, VG, F), 2 (x2, NS & DM, F), 3 (NS, VG/F), 4 (DM, VG/F) – (Set for $4)
Inhumans (1975 series) – 7 (reader, $1)
Official Marvel No-Prize Book (1982) + Generic Comic Book (1984) – 1 (VG, $4 set)
Secret Defenders – 1, 2, 3 (VF or better, $5 set)
Red Sonja (1982 2nd series, only 2 issues) – 1 (x2, F and VG), 2 (F) (Set for $5)
Red Sonja (1983, 3d Series) – 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 (F to F+ - set for $7)
Punisher – 2 (F), 8 (VF), 35 , 36, 41, 42, 46, 47, 48, 50, 56, 59, 60 (x2), 61, 67, 68, 103 (F+/VF-), annual 4 (F to VF), Punisher War Zone – 3, 34 (F to VF), Classic Punisher (reprints of early shorts) – ($30 set)

DC Singles
Omega Men set (1983, Avg F condition, $10 set) - 1, 2, 7, 8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 18, 35
Infinity Inc set (1983, Avg F Condition, $25 set) - 1 (VG), 2, 3, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 22 (crisis), 23 (crisis), 46 (millennium)
Saga of Swamp Thing (1982)
DC Special Series (1977) – 10 (G, $2)
Warlord Collection
Underworld Unleashed 3 (VF/NM) $2
History of the DC Universe 1, 2 (VF, $5 set)
Invasion – 1 (F), 2 (F), 3 (x2 a DM (VF) and NS (F)) - $7 set
Millennium – 1, 2, 3 , 4 , 5, 6, 7, 8 (F to VF) - $8 set
Legends – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (F, $9 set)
All Star Comics (1999) 1, 2 (VF, $4 set)
JSA (1999) – 1 , 2 , 4 (avg VF-, $10 set)
Justice Society (1991 mini) – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 8 (avg VF, $6 set)
Justice Society (1992) – 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 (avg VF, complete set, $15 set)
America vs the Justice Society (1985) – 1, 2, 3, 4 (VG/F) ($6 set)

Superman Singles
Superman Family Giant (1970’s)– 180, 206 (VG) (all VG, $4 Set)
Superman (1987) – 73 (VF), 109, 111, 112, 114, 118 – ($10 set)
Superman: The Man of Steel – 55, 57, 60, 61, 63 ($7 set)
Adventures of Superman – 532, 541, 543 ($5 set)
Superman – the Man of Tomorrow – 4, 5, 6, 7 ($5 set)
Superboy (1994) – 1, 2, 11 (all F, $3 set)
Supergirl (1994 mini) – 1, 2 (all F, $2)
Steel (1994) – 1, 3 – ($4 set)
World of Smallville – 1, 2 – ($2 set)

Other Singles
John Sable, Freelance (First Comics, mid 1980s Mike Grell) – 5, 8 (x2), 9, 10, 11 (x2), 14, 15, 16, 17, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 45, 48, 52 (Avg F condition, $20 for set)

Blu Ray/DVD Sets
Stargate SG1 Season 1 DVD Set - ($5)
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2020.09.06 00:40 tjaylea 7 days ago I turned 29, I pray I never turn 30.

Before I tell you my part in all of this, I need to go back to where it all began;
My ancestor Eizo Nakamura was, by all accounts, an asshole. But an opportunistic one.
“Seize the day, the night and all the bodies that bask under it with their jewellery unprotected!” He declared in his journal that fateful night one late summer’s evening in 1866, bragging about how he’d scored another heist with his brother; Minato Nakamura, that they’d survive the famine and “buy all the hookers they could ever want” with the leftover sums. Most folks aren’t buried in Japan, in fact 99.8% of them are cremated, so Eizo wasn’t robbing graves.
He was robbing corpses before they were cremated.
Eizo was resourceful, careful and precise. He would pick the bodies of those who he knew had very few relatives, Minato would pay off the mortician, and they’d ransack the corpse before anyone came to pay their respects. He’d make the excuse that it was to stave off starvation during the Tenpō famine of 1833, starting when he was just a boy in Honshu and lasting until he was in his teens. But he continued to steal long after that. Which brings us to why we’re here today.
His greed would ultimately bring ruin upon every male member of the Nakamura bloodline.
On the last winter solstice he spent in Japan, now in his late 30s and with a young family, Eizo and Minato resolved to rob the home of a Shinto Priest in the region, knowing his young son was riddled with consumption and soon to pass. With distraction plaguing the Father’s mind, Eizo knew it would be a simple task to rob him blind.
“The job is easy, we wait in the trees on the night they come to give the young master his rites and upon their departure, sneak in and claim what we know he won’t miss.” he was giddy with excitement, lord knows his arrogance given he documented these “raids”.
Sure enough, as documented, the pair lay in wait and watched as the priest’s contemporaries filed in one by one and read the poor boy his last rites. The grief-stricken Father seeing them out with despair written across his face, clearly too distraught to do them himself. As he thanked them outside, Eizo & Minato snuck around the back and entered the home.
When they found the sickly boy, laying in his bed and barely breathing, it seems that Minato felt a pang of guilt and wanted to hold off.
“These are the hours of the Ox, it’s unwise to do this now. Besides…” He cast his eyes to the boy, Eizo noting the regret in his eyes. “He’s still alive. He could make a scene…” before casting his gaze forward to the Priest’s safe room, the door slightly ajar and promises of priceless artefacts, donations and food laying just out of reach.
“I wasn’t about to let some child not long for this world get in the way of our job. Besides, the sick should give way for the strong and where his boy was dying, mine was most certainly living. So, I did what I had to…”
What that turned out, it seemed, was suffocating the life out of the child. Eizo reported he thrash ever so slightly before falling limp, an errant hand the only thing still clasped tightly to Eizo’s forearm in the moments following, as if clutching to the last vestige of life he’d ever come to know.
To his credit, Minato punched his brother in disgust, questioning if he was even sane to do such a horrific thing, let alone in the hallowed hours between 1 and 3 when the worst could befall them.
But, the commotion had roused the priest and within moments; he was stood in the doorway, eyes aghast and trembling hands reached out towards the brothers.
It was at that moment that Eizo, Minato and the rest of our lives would be inexorably changed forever.
I couldn’t tell you exactly what the priest said to them, how his grief rattled voice shook the very foundations of his home as if a typhoon were striking the bows with unshackled prejudice, or if Eizo and Minato ever saw justice for their crime. But I can tell you that whatever specifics were discussed drove Eizo to gather his family and leave for the mountains in 1870, eschewing contact with the outside world and becoming fiercely protective of his boy. At night, he would sit by his front door and with sword in hand, wait with trembling lips and shaking hands. He wrote in his journal;
“They always come in the hours of The Ox. They crawl up the foundations of the home and whisper in my ear. Sometimes asking me to do terrible things, other times promising me it’ll all end if I open the door… I saw one of them once; a horned, pale-skinned ogre with fangs the size of my forearm, yellow eyes with the blackest pupils that widened to an ungodly pit when they fixated on me. The voice constantly stuck between hysterical laughter and the most pained sobs. No different to an animal trying to produce human mimicry. It cooed for me to step outside and face what I’d done. But I am a coward and I will not abandon my family.”
Eizo wasn’t the only one suffering from these night visits, Minato began thrashing in his sleep every night as his wife struggled to console him. He would flail madly as if fighting off unseen hands, deep lacerations forming on his skin and thick, large bite marks puncturing his soft flesh. Whenever he awoke, sweating and as if he’d aged some years each night, he would refuse to comment on what happened, save for one phrase;
“We should have never gone during the hours of the Ox. We deserve what we get.”
It was on his deathbed a mere 4 years later, only 42 but stricken with white frail hair and atrophied muscles, that he looked at a spot in the corner and his eyes grew wide, biting his lip to the point of drawing blood.
“She’s ready for her last meal, it seems. I’m sorry I couldn’t stop it.” With that, he exhaled deeply, his back arching to the point of snapping before he froze, dead.
Eizo lasted a decent while longer, refusing to come to Minatos funeral and effectively shutting out the outside world save for his family on their small rice farm. He watched his three children grow older and, on his eldest son’s 29th birthday, told him the truth behind his episodes. The reason I am here with you all today.
That night, in that home during the hours of the Ox, the Shinto Priest performed what is known as Ushi no toki Mairi, a curse placed upon the brothers for their heinous crimes, destined to suffer in both this and the next life.
Eizo wept and the guilt of his actions overcame him as he apologised profusely to his son Tenzan, the young man not understanding why.
In those later hours when the knocking on the door grew frantic and the scratching accompanied a deafening wailing that Tenzan whipped around to hear. His Father gasping from his bed.
“So he was right, you hear it too… Tenzan, look under the tatami plates near our porch. And please… forgive me.”
He died soon after, leaving Tenzan with the uncomfortable knowledge that every man in my family now carries on their shoulders;
We are all cursed. Every single one of us.
Every man in my family begins to see these creatures on their 29th birthday and misfortune befalls them throughout the rest of their days. Sometimes they go weeks without an incident, sometimes hours. It seems to vary from member to member, but as the generations grew, all the men reported seeing them around the time they reached 29. When trying to find the priest who originally placed the curse in order to apologise, they were unable to locate him or anyone who knew him. The search was ultimately fruitless, and each member of the Nakamura clan dealt with the curse in their own way.
Tenzan tried to maintain the property in his Father’s absence, his younger brother committing suicide the night of his 30th birthday, manic and wild-eyed as he stuck the blade through his belly, right in front of his children.
“Now they won’t use me as a hive.” He gurgled, blood seeping through his teeth and staining them a dark coffee red as he fell forward. His son would later report hearing an incessant buzzing in his ear, itchiness on his skin and bumps appearing over his body that he couldn’t get rid of. He’d eventually throw himself into the river at the age of 34 as a “cleansing ritual” that he unsurprisingly didn’t survive.
My Grandfather Hiroshi took his wife and my Dad across the ocean and here to the UK during the second world war, declaring a desire to escape the atrocities of the empire, ply his trade out west and help the British government as a translator. Though my Grandmother would recount that he secretly hoped the sightings would stop if they were blessed by another priest and started over in a new land where these Yokai could not follow.
He was wrong.
Within a decade, Hiroshi would be driven to the point of insomnia, refusing to sleep for fear “the spindly thing in the gutters” would rise out of the drain to claim him. He began scarcely washing, only opting to do so when he could take the bucket into the living room so as not to see into the drain. His son, my Dad Jushin, was obviously concerned seeing his Father slowly devolving into nothing more than a husk that babbled on about the rattling of the pipes, the incessant singing that only he could hear emanating from the neighbours above despite living on the top floor and other maladies that ultimately drove Hiroshi to a heart attack when I was just a boy.
I remember the drive home from the funeral. A shinto burial in London is a rare sight, and though my Dad and I were more British than we were Japanese, we still upheld tradition. My frail nana looking at me from her wheelchair and shaking her head as she pointed to me and spoke to my Mother.
I remember my Father’s white knuckles as he gripped the steering wheel for dear life and screamed in broken Japanese for something to get out of the way, despite the roads being clear.
I remember the car toppling over the embankment and the feeling of inertia washing over me as my small body was thrown around like a rag-doll; my dads promises to fix the passenger seatbelt now coming back to haunt him.
I remember the quiet aftermath. Soft, pained breaths in the husk of that car as I looked ahead and saw my Father’s mangled body crawling back to the dashboard, only half of him making the return trip.
“Theodore; Ignore the whispers.” He repeated, inter splicing a small chant until his breathing grew shallow and the blue lights blinded him from my vision.
He was 31. To the best of my knowledge, he never once displayed the kind of anxiety or distress previous members had shown. I’d even seen my Uncle and Grandfather in more weathered states around that time, but my Dad, to me at least, seemed immune to it all. Proud of his work and a diligent parent, he always strived to be the best he could.
But maybe it was that desire to ignore the fate bestowed upon him that caused his end.
So here we are, some two decades later and now my turn. My brother Harry went missing a few years back, though my Mother is convinced it was his wanderlust and that he’s “probably somewhere in South America stoned out of his mind”. But he never took narcotics for fun. Always to quell his paranoia of something following him.
Harry routinely believed that the stars followed him wherever he went. Particularly one that situated in the East. A “sickly magenta and humming…always humming” as he described it, following him wherever he went, rising and growing as he tried to outrun it.
I asked him why it terrified him so much when it was so far away, but when his eyes met mine, I understood that there was something else in the sky, something he wouldn’t dare to describe, that was after him.
“If you saw the glow, heard the hum… felt the presence… you’d know, Theo.” He’d take a deep drag of his cigarette and wave me off, not wanting to discuss it anymore. On the weekend of his 29th, he bade us farewell and set off backpacking, telling Mum he “needed to find himself” while telling me he “hoped the stars wouldn’t follow him there” odd as that statement sounded.
In my case, I guess I’d prepared for it my whole life. Indulging in horror has been my forte to such a degree that hell, I made it a full-time job, weaving experiences from my life or the lives of those I knew and making them into something to terrify others, knowing full well that nothing would ever match what was waiting for me.
It started last year on my 28th; I woke up the following morning with a start, the whispering in my ear faint but unmistakably alien.
“You shouldn’t take your medication today.”
I looked around, puzzled and trying to figure out if it was my sleep addled state, a leftover portion of the dream I was having. Spying nobody and not hearing any follow-up responses, I roused myself out of bed and got on with my day, cursing myself for forgetting my medication and the feeling of something watching me permeating throughout my day.
So, from there, it grew like a cancer. Over the weeks I would feel something placing icy hands around my neck or my stomach, jolting me and causing me to drop something valuable, stumble over in the street and once even careen my car into the back of my Mums.
With every momentary fright and creeping sense of dread, I could feel this thing grow in confidence and power.
I spent the remaining part of 2019 researching our family lineage as best I could, trying desperately to find a way to alleviate the curse, to atone for my ancestors’ sins or stave it off. But after numerous overseas calls to our native relatives in Japan and lengthy chats with my Nana, it was to no avail.
“You can run from it, plead with it, bargain with it, but the curse shall not relent.” My Nana rasped, the sadness gripping her old but kind face. “I lost my husband and my son to that wretched curse, I couldn’t bear to lose you too…” I remember taking her hand and smiling, looking up at her to thank her for her kindness, but not seeing the face of my Nana where her head rested.
Instead, the most grotesque shape stretched itself over my Nana’s skull. Hollowed out eye sockets with amorphous shapes undulating in the black pits, layers of rotting flesh stretching over gangrenous muscle tissue and blackened bone, melding with the mould and the fungal rot amassing around the head. It cocked its head at me as it grinned.
“You will never see her face again. This is the crushing nature of the Kuri.”
I backed away, softly apologising to my Nana in a cold sweat, my chest tightening and vision growing blurry. I was having a panic attack.
Managing to get to my car, I tried desperately to calm myself down, punching the steering wheel in frustration as my mind shot back to those final moments my dad suffered through… did he see then what I see now?
So it went, The Kuri kept its promise. First just with my Nana until she died in the spring, then moving onto my cousins, aunts, uncles and in July… my Mother. I’ve tried as many excuses as I can muster in order to put off seeing her, but I think with my age rapidly approaching 30, she senses something is off.
I finally told my partner about in the week leading up to my birthday. She tried her best to understand, but when she put her hand on mine and suggested I speak to a therapist, I knew it would always be a barrier she’s unable to cross. I couldn’t blame her. To the outside world, it must seem as if our family simply has a history of severe mental illness on the male side. Maybe we do. Maybe it’s just latent in our minds until we finish maturity in our mid-20s and the 29th birthday is simply self-fulfilling prophecy? We expect it to happen, and so it does.
Last week, a few days shy of my birthday, The Kuri came to me in a dream. Draped in a cloak of muscles and guts, it peered from the tip of the cloak to laugh at me.
“You want to be set free, yes?” It cooed, my desperation practically palpable at this point. A solid year without proper sleep, communication with my family or a reason to live. I nodded, tears forming in my eyes at the prospect of freedom.
“Then go to where your Father lost his life. I will return whence I came and find a new victim. I will lead you there.”
I didn’t tell my partner; I didn’t tell anyone. I left a simple note and an excuse why I had to go, deactivated my social media and set off for where he had his accident; Winchester. To those of you not local, it’s a countryside situated 100 miles from London, sprawling hills and surrounded by nature. It was our nation’s capital for centuries. It also has many quiet countryside roads with vast open fields, the kind my Father lost his life on.
As I drove down the dimly lit roads, my sole companion was The Kuri, whispering in my ear.
“Just a little bit further… you’ll be there soon… I’ll find someone new and I swear I’ll let you go… you never even bore a son… it’s no fun when you don’t react anymore…”
Exhaustion, misery and hunger gripped my soul as I sped up, desperate to get this thing gone. My mind wracked with thoughts of how my predecessors had succumbed to other members of this creature’s family. How many more would fall? I had cousins. There was still a chance it’d continue…
I saw the long, winding road known as Hatches Lane, the lights barely flickering as my car pulled up near the embankment. Was it here? Maybe it was further… My eyes were feeling heavy, and I struggled to focus.
“Get out and walk, I’ll take you there… I want to be rid of you…” It whispered, the voice almost sorrowful now as I willed my aching frame to move and trudge through the darkness.
How long had it been since I’d eaten? Drank? My mouth felt so dry that swallowing brought the sensation of razors slinking down my throat, eyes felt itchy and my head was pounding. I could barely see, the cold whipping through my bones.
“A little further… keep going… we’re almost there…” My knees gave out, and I felt the darkness take me. The only thing left was the sight of that fucking creature as it grinned. Images of my Father, Grandfather and the other countless men in my family stood silently behind it, heads bowed and shackled with their own abominations by their side tormenting them.
“I cannot wait to drag you down to hell with me… to join the rest of the Nakamura Clan…” It bared its teeth, a yellow tongue oozing pus and lapping around its face in a snake-like manner as it cackled.
Before I could respond, a blinding light shone through the darkness and I was brought to my senses with worried faces looming over me.
My partner and a pair of paramedics.
-
I should be thankful I had the find my iPhone function on my phone and that the note was ominous enough for my partner to look further into. Any later and I doubt they’d have found me. Both she and the doctor chalked it up to a psychotic break pertaining to the families superstition of the men turning 29. I didn’t argue. Nor did I protest going to therapy and spending time focusing on getting better.
To their credit, I didn’t see or hear The Kuri.
After some time, I began to think that perhaps things could return to normal, that I’d be able to find some sense of normality amid a sea of misfortune and tragedy.
But, last Monday, the day after I turned 29, right as the clock turned to 1am through to 3am and entered the hours of the Ox, I saw two things standing at the foot of my bed, my partner sleeping soundly through them all.
The first was my Father, propping himself up on his elbows, the bottom half of him stood at the side patiently. A look of sorrow across his still youthful face as he turned to glance at the other figure; The Kuri, teeth bared, pale skin cloaked in muscles and eyes that sickly tinted yellow Eizo had seen so long ago.
“You can run from it, plead with it, bargain with it, but the curse shall not relent.” He breathed as The Kuri cackled, making me fully aware of what the rest of my life would look like.
My new horrible reality.
“Happy birthday, son. Good luck.”
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2020.09.05 05:10 MiamiSlice [USA-NJ] [H] 2DS Console, games for most Nintendo consoles, PS1/2, Nintendo Powers, collectibles [W] CIB's: Fire Emblem, Kirby's Dream Land 2, Mega Man X Command Mission with card, list, offers

Adding a bunch of items since my last post!
I have 90+ confirmed trades. Also, fair warning, these lists are long, I have a lot of stuff for trade! Looking to do fair value but where I have an item that is worn / in poor shape I value that lower than eBay averages due to condition. Also bolded items are hard trades and I usually only trade limited print Switch games for other limited print Switch games (with some exceptions).
p.s. "CIB" means complete, as in including all the booklets and such that were supposed to come in there, otherwise I will clarify what is included. "NIB" means New In Box, aka sealed, "brand new," in the shrink, etc.
p.p.s. If we are going to trade, all I ask is please be honest about the condition of your items. I can provide pictures for anything I have, please be willing to do the same! Thanks!

HAVE

Switch games, accessories, cards
3DS console, games, accessories
3DS boxes and manuals (no games)
DS games and accessories
DS boxes and manuals (no games)
GBA games and videos
GBC games and more
GB games and packaging
Wii U games and packaging
Wii games and accessories
GameCube games, accessories and packaging
N64
N64 boxes and manuals
NES games and accessories
SEGA Genesis
PS3 boxes and manuals (no games)
PS2 games
PS2 boxes and manuals (no games)
PSX games
PSX boxes and manuals (no games)
IBM Tandy
PC
Strategy guides
Collectibles and posters
Comic Books
Random Stuff

WANT

The high priority stuff, all should be CIB unless noted:
The rest:
Pre-order bonuses
Amiibo (want loose)
LRG Cards
Cards for Flinthook, Furi, Slime San, ToeJam and Earl, Golf Story, Dragon's Lair Trilogy, PixelJunk Monsters 2, Lumines Remastered, Yooka-Laylee, The Escapists and Saturday Morning RPG
Limited Print Switch Games (prefer CIB but also fine with NIB, also fine with Best Buy retail versions when applicable)
Other Switch Games (looking for CIB and clean)
3DS Games
DS
GBA
GBC
GB
Wii U
Wii
GameCube
N64
PS3
PS2
PSX
Strategy Guides
I'm happy to look at lists, but these are my priority wants.
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2020.09.04 05:00 deanze1 [USA-NV-Vegas][H] MM11, NnK2, RE7, SotC, DR4:FBP, Yakuza, Skyrim, DQ11, KH:TSSF, KH3, MHW (PS4), RDR2:SE (XB1), Splatoon 2 (NS), PS4, Switch, XB1/360/OG, SNES/NES, Vita, 3DS, GC, DC, Datel Pokemon GO-tcha Evolve Watch [W] Dark Souls Remastered PS4, Ghost of Tsushima, Persona 4 Arena PS3, Offers

I have a lot of sealed PS4/XB1 games and have extra sealed copies to trade of: Dead Rising 4: Frank’s Big Package, Kingdom Come: Deliverance (2 copies), FIFA 19: Champions Edition, Knack II, Mega Man 11, Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom (3 copies), Rainbow Six: Siege, Resident Evil 7 (2 copies), Shadow of the Colossus (2 copies), Shenmue 3, Sonic Mania Plus, Yakuza Kiwami (PS Hits). Also, have new sealed copies of Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night, Control, Code Vein, Medievil, Doom Slayers Collection, Strange Brigade, Prey, Eagle Flight VR for PS4. For Xbox One, I’ve got an extra sealed copy of Red Dead Redemption II: Special Edition, and Tekken 7. I’ve also got a few extra brand new SanDisk Extreme Plus microSD cards 256GB (2 new) and an Ultra 200GB (1 new) up for trade as well.
 
As for games from my collection that I’m looking to trade in particular, I’ve bolded most of them in my list like Kingdom Hearts: The Story So Far, Minecraft Story Mode - Season 2, Monster Hunter World, Skyrim Special Edition, Bioshock: The Collection, Dragon Quest 11, Kingdom Hearts 3, Owlboy, Secret of Mana, and Shovel Knight (PS4).. Anything bolded is something that I’m interested in trading away.
 
I’m interested in finding a copy of Dark Souls Remastered (PS4) and some recent PS4 releases like Ghost of Tsushima (as I prefer trophies) and maybe some PS3 games like Ico and Persona 4 Arena & Persona 4 Arena Ultimax.
 
I’ve also got a few other things that I really want to trade and they are bolded in my post. I have an extra Datel Pokemon GO-tcha Evolve watch in red. I also have an extra Astro A10 Headset (Zelda BotW edition) for Switch and a copy of Skies of Arcadia on Dreamcast in excellent condition. I’m also still trying to trade my physical copies of Cave Story+, Splatoon 2 (Switch), or any combination of PS4/Switch/XB games that I’ve already beaten. If you want pictures of anything, just let me know.
 
I’m listing my whole collection as well, just in case someone wants to piece some other kind of trade together (or as an index for other trades). I’m probably open to trading a decent number of things that I have on this list (especially bolded items) for the right offer. I’ve also got a bunch of Bluray movies as well that aren’t listed (if you’re interested in any movies to even out a deal, just ask and I can put a list together). The only things that I might be hesitant to trade are some of my rare SNES & retro collection, but I could possibly if I was “blown away” ;)
 
List of Confirmed Trades/Sales
 
Platform Game Condition
PS4 PS4 Pro 500 million Limited Edition Translucent Blue Console + 2TB SSHD CIB (unless specified)
PS4 Assassin’s Creed Odyssey
PS4 Assassin’s Creed Origins
PS4 Astro Bot: Rescue Mission
PS4 AVICII Invector
PS4 Bioshock Collection
PS4 Blood & Truth
PS4 Bloodbourne
PS4 Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night 2 sealed copies
PS4 Borderlands: Game of the Year Edition
PS4 Borderlands Handsome Collection
PS4 Borderlands 3
PS4 BOXVR PSVR game
PS4 Catherine: Full Body Launch Edition Steelbook
PS4 Code Vein Sealed
PS4 Control Sealed
PS4 Crash Bandicoot N’Sane Trilogy
PS4 Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin
PS4 Dead Rising 4: Frank’s Big Package 1 extra
PS4 Death Stranding Sealed
PS4 Diablo III: Eternal Collection
PS4 Divinity: Original Sin 2 – Definitive Edition
PS$ Doom Slayers Collection Sealed
PS4 Dragon's Crown Pro: Battle Hardened Ed Steelbook
PS4 Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age
PS4 Dreams
PS4 Eagle Flight VR Sealed
PS4 The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim Special Ed
PS4 The Elder Scrolls V: Skryim VR Disc only, PSVR
PS4 The Evil Within 2
PS4 Fallout 4: GOTY DLC code used
PS4 Farpoint VR
PS4 FIFA 19: Champions Edition 1 extra sealed
PS4 Final Fantasy VII Remake - Deluxe edition Includes extra Steelbook, OST, art book
PS4 Final Fantasy X/X-2: Remastered
PS4 Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age
PS4 Final Fantasy XV
PS4 Firewall Zero Hour
PS4 God of War
PS4 Gran Turismo Sport Steelbook edition
PS4 Grand Theft Auto 5
PS4 Marvel’s Guardians of the Galaxy: The Telltale Series
PS4 Horizon Zero Dawn
PS4 Kingdom Come: Deliverance 3 extra sealed copies
PS4 Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 + 2.5 ReMIX
PS4 Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8 - Final Chapter
PS4 Kingdom Hearts: The Story So Far
PS4 Kingdom Hearts 3
PS4 Knack II
PS4 The Last of Us: Part II
PS4 The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel - Decisive Edition CIB, steelbook, coin & sealed OST
PS4 The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III - Early Enrollment Edition Sealed
PS4 Little Big Planet 3 PS Hits box
PS4 Medievil Sealed
PS4 Mega Man 11 1 extra sealed copies
PS4 Minecraft Story Mode: Season 2
PS4 Monster Hunter World
PS4 Monster Hunter World: Iceborne - Master Edition Deluxe Steelbook Sealed
PS4 Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch Remastered
PS4 Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom (Day 1 Ed) 3 extra sealed copies
PS4 Nier Automata
PS4 Nioh
PS4 Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir
PS4 Overwatch: Origins Edition
PS4 Owlboy
PS4 Persona Dancing: Endless Night Collection (P5D & P3D) P4D DLC code used
PS4 Persona 5 (Premium Take Your Heart Edition) Includes everything. Music CD sealed.
PS4 Persona 5 Royal Steelbook edition
PS4 Playstation VR Worlds
PS4 Prey Sealed
PS4 Tearaway Unfolded
PS4 Tom Clancy’s Rainbow Six: Siege
PS4 Resident Evil 2
PS4 Resident Evil 7 2 extra sealed copies
PS4 Rise of the Tomb Raider Case is slightly cracked.
PS4 Sairento VR PSVR game
PS4 Secret of Mana Gamestop physical edition
PS4 Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice
PS4 Shadow of the Colossus 1 Steelbook; 2 sealed standard copies
PS4 Shenmue I & II
PS4 Shenmue III Sealed
PS4 Shovel Knight
PS4 Singstar Celebration
PS4 Sonic Mania Plus Sealed w/ art book & Genesis cover
PS4 South Park: The Fractured but Whole
PS4 Strange Brigade Sealed
PS4 Marvel’s Spider-Man: GOTY DLC code used
PS4 Steamworld Dig 2
PS4 Tales of Berseria
PS4 Tearaway Unfolded: Crafted Edition
PS4 Tetris Effect
PS4 That’s You!
PS4 Trine 4
PS4 Trover Saves the Universe
PS4 The Walking Dead: A New Frontier
PS4 The Walking Dead: Season Two
PS4 The Walking Dead: The Final Season
PS4 The Witcher 3: Complete Edition
PS4 Uncharted 4 Gamestop black box
PS4 Yakuza 0
PS4 Yakuza Kiwami Steelbook & an extra Sealed PS Hits copy
PS4 Yakuza Kiwami 2 Steelbook
PS4 The Yakuza Remastered Collection (3,4,5) Sealed
PS4 Yakuza 6: The Song of Life Essence of Art ed.
PS4 Accs PSVR Headset v2 & accessories
PS4 Accs 2 PS Move controllers
PS4 Accs 1 500 million edition translucent blue + 1 blue official v2 controllers (latest rev.)
PS4 Accs PS4 v2 Camera 500 million edition blue & regular black Camera
PS4 Accs PS4 500 million edition translucent blue vertical stand
PS4 Accs Astro A50 PS4 wireless headset (Gen 3)
PS4 Accs PowerA Dual Controller Charging Stand
PS4 Accs PSVR Aim controller
PS4 Accs PS4 DualShock 4 Back Button Attachment
Switch 32 GB launch system (RCM clip) CIB (unless specified)
Switch Binding of Isaac: Afterbirth+
Switch Cave Story+ Includes OST mini-cd & user guide
Switch Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
Switch The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
Switch Mario + Rabbids Kingdom Battle
Switch Octopath Traveler
Switch Pokemon Let’s Go: Eevee Edition Pokeball plus combo
Switch Puyo Puyo Tetris
Switch Rayman Legends: Definitive Edition
Switch Splatoon 2
Switch Super Bomberman R
Switch Super Mario Maker 2
Switch Super Mario Odyssey collector’s coin from BB
Switch Super Smash Bros Ultimate collector’s coin from BB
Switch Sushi Striker: The Way of the Sushido
Switch Xenoblade Chronicles 2
Switch Zumba Burn It Up!
Switch Accs Astro A10 Headset (Zelda: BotW edition) New and never used.
Switch Accs Neon Pink (L) & Neon Green (R) Splatoon joy-cons Barely used
Switch Accs Atomic Purple translucent joy-cons w/ D-pad Modded from original grays
Switch Accs Nintendo Switch Pro controller
Switch Accs 8bitdo SN30Pro controller
Switch Accs 8bitdo N30 Arcade Stick (mod w/ Sanwa buttons & Seimitsu LS-32 stick)
Switch Accs 256GB SanDisk Extreme Plus A1 microSD card + adapter 2 brand new
Switch Accs 200GB SanDisk Ultra microSD card + adapter 1 brand new
Switch Accs HORI Tough Pouch (Black) for Switch
Switch Accs PowerA Joy-Con & Pro Controller Charging Dock
Switch Accs Satisfye Pro Gaming Grip v1 w/ Grey Slim Carrying Case
Switch Accs Pokeball Plus
Switch Accs PowerA “POW” blue games carrying case
Switch Accs RCM clip w/ case
XB1 Xbox One X Black + 2TB SSHD CIB (unless specified)
XB1 Bioshock: The Collection
XB1 Cuphead Limited Edition Gift (no disc) Case & Art Cell of “Don’t deal with the devil”
XB1 Gears of War: Ultimate Edition & Rare Replay combo Contains both games
XB1 L.A. Noire
XB1 Okami HD
XB1 Ori and the Blind Forest: Definitive Edition
XB1 Red Dead Redemption 2: Special Edition New and sealed
XB1 Sunset Overdrive
XB1 Tekken 7 1 extra sealed
XB1 Titanfall 2
XB1 XCOM 2
XB1 Accs Astro A50 Xbox One base station (Gen 3)
XB1 Accs Xbox One Elite Controller (Black) v1 & Case
XB1 Accs Brook X One Adapter (wireless)
XB1 Accs Black Xbox One Controller Latest rev. w/ BT
XB360 4GB Black Slim model CIB (unless specified)
XB360 Alan Wake
XB360 Assassin’s Creed II
XB360 Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood
XB360 Borderlands Platinum Hits box
XB360 Dead Space Gamestop box
XB360 Dead Space 2
XB360 Dead Space 3 Platinum Hits box
XB360 The Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion
XB360 Fallout 3: GOTY
XB360 Fallout New Vegas: Ultimate Edition XB1/360 box
XB360 Far Cry 3
XB360 FIFA 09
XB360 Final Fantasy XIII
XB360 Final Fantasy XIII-2
XB360 Gears of War: Collector’s Edition Steelbox
XB360 Gears of War 2
XB360 Gears of War 3
XB360 Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter
XB360 Grand Theft Auto 4
XB360 Guitar Hero II
XB360 Guitar Hero III
XB360 Halo 3
XB360 Halo Reach
XB360 Left 4 Dead
XB360 Left 4 Dead 2
XB360 Lightning Returns: FFXIII
XB360 Madden 07
XB360 Mass Effect 2 Plat; Box is not in great condition
XB360 Mass Effect 3
XB360 NBA 2K7
XB360 NBA Street Homecourt
XB360 Ninja Gaiden II
XB360 The Orange Box
XB360 Portal 2 Platinum
XB360 Red Dead Redemption: GOTY XB1/360 box
XB360 Rock Band 2
XB360 UEFA Champions League 06-07
XB360 XCOM: Enemy Within Gamestop box
XB360 3 white XB360 controllers
PSVita Org. launch PS Vita CIB (unless specified)
PSVita Final Fantasy X/X-2 X-2 code used
PSVita Little Big Planet: PS Vita
PSVita Lumines: Electronic Symphony
PSVita Metal Gear Solid HD Collection
PSVita Persona 4 Golden
PSVita Rayman Origins
PSVita Resistance: Burning Skies Cart only
PSVita Sly Cooper Collection Cart only
PSVita Steins;Gate 0 Cart only
PSVita The Walking Dead: Season 1
PSVita Tearaway
PSVita Uncharted: Golden Abyss
PSVita Accs 32GB Vita memory card
PSVita Accs 16GB Vita memory card
PSVita Accs 4GB Vita memory card
PSVita Accs Vita charging dock
PSVita Accs Blue Hori hard shell console case
PS3 PS3 Slim w/ 1TB HDD CIB (unless specified)
PS3 Call of Duty: Black Ops
PS3 Call of Duty: Black Ops II Disk only
PS3 Call of Duty: Ghosts
PS3 God of War: Origins Collection
PS3 God of War Saga Used game case
PS3 Injustice: Gods Among Us
PS3 Jak and Daxter Collection
PS3 Mass Effect 2
PS3 Mass Effect 3
PS3 Mortal Kombat
PS3 Prototype
PS3 SoulCalibur V
PS3 Tekken 6 2 copies
PS3 Accs PowerA Wired PS3 Controller (black)
3DS "New" 3DS XL Red w/ case CIB (unless specified)
3DS Bravely Default
3DS Hatsune Miku: Project Mirai DX
3DS The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
3DS Monster Hunter 4: Ultimate
3DS Sky3DS+ flash cart (Orange button, latest) Includes 128GB microSD card
3DS Accs Black Hori hard shell console case
DS R4 3DS flash cart Includes 32GB microSD card
DS Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney DS cartridge only
DS The World Ends With You DS cartridge only w/ generic case
SNES Org. NTSC SNES, Analogue Super Nt (classic), & SNES Classic Loose cart (unless specified)
SNES Chrono Trigger
SNES Donkey Kong Country
SNES Earthbound Label is slightly worn
SNES F-Zero
SNES Final Fantasy III
SNES Killer Instinct
SNES The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
SNES Mario Paint Includes original SNES mouse
SNES Mortal Kombat II
SNES NBA Jam: Tournament Edition Label is slightly worn
SNES Secret of Mana
SNES SimCity
SNES Spider-Man and the X-Men in Arcade’s Revenge
SNES Street Fighter II
SNES Super Metroid
SNES Super Mario All-Stars Player's Choice Edition
SNES Super Mario Kart
SNES Super Mario RPG
SNES Super Mario World
SNES Super Mario World 2: Yoshi’s Island
SNES Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Turtles in Time
SNES Tetris 2
SNES Accs 8bitdo SNES Retro wireless receiver
SNES Accs 8bitdo NES/SNES Classic Mini wireless receiver
SNES Accs 2 original NTSC controllers
GC Original Purple GameCube CIB (unless specified)
GC Metroid Prime
GC The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
GC Skies of Arcadia: Legends
GC Super Smash Bros: Melee Original Black Box version
GC Accs 2 Wavebird official controllers
XB Original launch console CIB (unless specified)
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2020.09.02 17:59 NoLanSym Intelligence and Propaganda

Intelligence and Propaganda
DARPA propaganda
Intelligence is often hiding in plain site.
I believe ex cia agent Robert Steele. When he says most of our intelligence community are without a doubt good people trapped in a bad system.
steele on intelligence and child sex trafficking
Learn these traits to armor yourself against the enemy.

Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

Note: The first rule and last five (or six, depending on situation) rules are generally not directly within the ability of the traditional disinfo artist to apply. These rules are generally used more directly by those at the leadership, key players, or planning level of the criminal conspiracy or conspiracy to cover up.
  1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don't discuss it -- especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it's not reported, it didn't happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.
  2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit.
  3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method which works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such 'arguable rumors'. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a 'wild rumor' from a 'bunch of kids on the Internet' which can have no basis in fact.
  4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.
  5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
  6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism, reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.
  7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could be taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.
  8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough 'jargon' and 'minutia' to illustrate you are 'one who knows', and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.
  9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.
  10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man -- usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with - a kind of investment for the future should the matter not be so easily contained.) Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually then be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues -- so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.
  11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the 'high road' and 'confess' with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made -- but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, 'just isn't so.' Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later, and even publicly 'call for an end to the nonsense' because you have already 'done the right thing.' Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for 'coming clean' and 'owning up' to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.
  12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to lose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.
  13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact.
  14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10.
  15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.
  16. Vanish evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won't have to address the issue.
  17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.
  18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'
  19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.
  20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations -- as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.
  21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed and unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed. Usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim.
  22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.
  23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes.
  24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or destruction of their character by release of blackmail information, or merely by destroying them financially, emotionally, or severely damaging their health.
  25. Vanish. If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.

COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution: misdirection and control of a internet forum..

There are several techniques for the control and manipulation of a internet forum no matter what, or who is on it. We will go over each technique and demonstrate that only a minimal number of operatives can be used to eventually and effectively gain a control of a 'uncontrolled forum.'

Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING'

If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.

Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'

A second highly effective technique is 'consensus cracking.' To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'

Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION'

Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.

Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING'

Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.

Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'

It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes. CONCLUSION Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM. Once they are aware of these techniques the operation can completely fail, and the forum can become uncontrolled. At this point other avenues must be considered such as initiating a false legal precidence to simply have the forum shut down and taken offline. This is not desirable as it then leaves the enforcement agencies unable to track the percentage of those in the population who always resist attempts for control against them. Many other techniques can be utilized and developed by the individual and as you develop further techniques of infiltration and control it is imperative to share then with HQ.
Note: The first rule and last five (or six, depending on situation) rules are generally not directly within the ability of the traditional disinfo artist to apply. These rules are generally used more directly by those at the leadership, key players, or planning level of the criminal conspiracy or conspiracy to cover up.

Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist

  1. Avoidance
They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide constructive input, generally avoiding citation of references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about their presentation implies their authority and expert knowledge in the matter without any further justification for credibility.
  1. Selectivity
They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either applying the hit-and-run approach against mere commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier attacks on key opponents who are known to directly address issues. Should a commentator become argumentative with any success, the focus will shift to include the commentator as well.
  1. Coincidental
They tend to surface suddenly and somewhat coincidentally with a new controversial topic with no clear prior record of participation in general discussions in the particular public arena involved. They likewise tend to vanish once the topic is no longer of general concern. They were likely directed or elected to be there for a reason, and vanish with the reason.
  1. Teamwork
They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute opponent presentation strength.
  1. Anti-conspiratorial
They almost always have disdain for 'conspiracy theorists' and, usually, for those who in any way believe JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold such disdain for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on defending a single topic discussed in a NG focusing on conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying to make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply ignore the group they hold in such disdain.Or, one might more rightly conclude they have an ulterior motive for their actions in going out of their way to focus as they do.
  1. Artificial Emotions
An odd kind of 'artificial' emotionalism and an unusually thick skin -- an ability to persevere and persist even in the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This likely stems from intelligence community training that, no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything, and never become emotionally involved or reactive. The net result for a disinfo artist is that emotions can seem artificial. Most people, if responding in anger, for instance, will express their animosity throughout their rebuttal. But disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining the 'image' and are hot and cold with respect to pretended emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional communications style. It's just a job, and they often seem unable to 'act their role in character' as well in a communications medium as they might be able in a real face-to-face conversation/confrontation. You might have outright rage and indignation one moment, ho-hum the next, and more anger later -- an emotional yo-yo. With respect to being thick-skinned, no amount of criticism will deter them from doing their job, and they will generally continue their old disinfo patterns without any adjustments to criticisms of how obvious it is that they play that game -- where a more rational individual who truly cares what others think might seek to improve their communications style, substance, and so forth, or simply give up.
  1. Inconsistent
There is also a tendency to make mistakes which betray their true self/motives. This may stem from not really knowing their topic, or it may be somewhat 'freudian', so to speak, in that perhaps they really root for the side of truth deep within. I have noted that often, they will simply cite contradictory information which neutralizes itself and the author. For instance, one such player claimed to be a Navy pilot, but blamed his poor communicating skills (spelling, grammar, incoherent style) on having only a grade-school education. I'm not aware of too many Navy pilots who don't have a college degree. Another claimed no knowledge of a particular topic/situation but later claimed first-hand knowledge of it.
  1. Time Constant
Recently discovered, with respect to News Groups, is the response time factor. There are three ways this can be seen to work, especially when the government or other empowered player is involved in a cover up operation: a) ANY NG posting by a targeted proponent for truth can result in an IMMEDIATE response. The government and other empowered players can afford to pay people to sit there and watch for an opportunity to do some damage. SINCE DISINFO IN A NG ONLY WORKS IF THE READER SEES IT - FAST RESPONSE IS CALLED FOR, or the visitor may be swayed towards truth. b) When dealing in more direct ways with a disinformationalist, such as email, DELAY IS CALLED FOR - there will usually be a minimum of a 48-72 hour delay. This allows a sit-down team discussion on response strategy for best effect, and even enough time to 'get permission' or instruction from a formal chain of command. c) In the NG example 1) above, it will often ALSO be seen that bigger guns are drawn and fired after the same 48-72 hours delay - the team approach in play. This is especially true when the targeted truth seeker or their comments are considered more important with respect to potential to reveal truth. Thus, a serious truth sayer will be attacked twice for the same sin.

How to Spot a Spy (Cointelpro Agent)

One way to neutralize a potential activist is to get them to be in a group that does all the wrong things.
Why? 1) The message doesn't get out. 2) A lot of time is wasted 3) The activist is frustrated and discouraged 4) Nothing good is accomplished.
FBI and Police Informers and Infiltrators will infest any group and they have phoney activist organizations established. Their purpose is to prevent any real movement for justice or eco-peace from developing in this country. Agents come in small, medium or large. They can be of any ethnic background. They can be male or female. The actual size of the group or movement being infiltrated is irrelevant. It is the potential the movement has for becoming large which brings on the spies and saboteurs.
This booklet lists tactics agents use to slow things down, foul things up, destroy the movement and keep tabs on activists. It is the agent's job to keep the activist from quitting such a group, thus keeping him/her under control.
In some situations, to get control, the agent will tell the activist: "You're dividing the movement." [Here, I have added the psychological reasons as to WHY this maneuver works to control people] This invites guilty feelings. Many people can be controlled by guilt. The agents begin relationships with activists behind a well-developed mask of "dedication to the cause." Because of their often declared dedication, (and actions designed to prove this), when they criticize the activist, he or she - being truly dedicated to the movement - becomes convinced that somehow, any issues are THEIR fault. This is because a truly dedicated person tends to believe that everyone has a conscience and that nobody would dissimulate and lie like that "on purpose." It's amazing how far agents can go in manipulating an activist because the activist will constantly make excuses for the agent who regularly declares their dedication to the cause. Even if they do, occasionally, suspect the agent, they will pull the wool over their own eyes by rationalizing: "they did that unconsciously... they didn't really mean it... I can help them by being forgiving and accepting " and so on and so forth.
The agent will tell the activist: "You're a leader!" This is designed to enhance the activist's self-esteem. His or her narcissistic admiration of his/her own activist/altruistic intentions increase as he or she identifies with and consciously admires the altruistic declarations of the agent which are deliberately set up to mirror those of the activist.
This is "malignant pseudoidentification." It is the process by which the agent consciously imitates or simulates a certain behavior to foster the activist's identification with him/her, thus increasing the activist's vulnerability to exploitation. The agent will simulate the more subtle self-concepts of the activist. Activists and those who have altruistic self-concepts are most vulnerable to malignant pseudoidentification especially during work with the agent when the interaction includes matter relating to their competency, autonomy, or knowledge.
The goal of the agent is to increase the activist's general empathy for the agent through pseudo-identification with the activist's self-concepts. The most common example of this is the agent who will compliment the activist for his competency or knowledge or value to the movement. On a more subtle level, the agent will simulate affects and mannerisms of the activist which promotes identification via mirroring and feelings of "twinship". It is not unheard of for activists, enamored by the perceived helpfulness and competence of a good agent, to find themselves considering ethical violations and perhaps, even illegal behavior, in the service of their agent/handler.
The activist's "felt quality of perfection" [self-concept] is enhanced, and a strong empathic bond is developed with the agent through his/her imitation and simulation of the victim's own narcissistic investments. [self-concepts] That is, if the activist knows, deep inside, their own dedication to the cause, they will project that onto the agent who is "mirroring" them. The activist will be deluded into thinking that the agent shares this feeling of identification and bonding. In an activist/social movement setting, the adversarial roles that activists naturally play vis a vis the establishment/government, fosters ongoing processes of intrapsychic splitting so that "twinship alliances" between activist and agent may render whole sectors or reality testing unavailable to the activist. They literally "lose touch with reality."
Activists who deny their own narcissistic investments [do not have a good idea of their own self-concepts and that they ARE concepts] and consciously perceive themselves (accurately, as it were) to be "helpers" endowed with a special amount of altruism are exceedingly vulnerable to the affective (emotional) simulation of the accomplished agent.
Empathy is fostered in the activist through the expression of quite visible affects. The presentation of tearfulness, sadness, longing, fear, remorse, and guilt, may induce in the helper-oriented activist a strong sense of compassion, while unconsciously enhancing the activist's narcissistic investment in self as the embodiment of goodness. The agent's expresssion of such simulated affects may be quite compelling to the observer and difficult to distinguish from deep emotion. It can usually be identified by two events:
  1. the activist who has analyzed his/her own narcissistic roots and is aware of his/her own potential for being "emotionally hooked," will be able to remain cool and unaffected by such emotional outpourings by the agent.
  2. The agent will recompensate much too quickly following such an affective expression leaving the activist with the impression that "the play has ended, the curtain has fallen," and the imposture, for the moment, has finished. The agent will then move quickly to another activist/victim.
The fact is, the movement doesn't need leaders, it needs

Movers

"Follow the leader" is a waste of time.
A good agent will want to meet as often as possible. He or she will talk a lot and say little. One can expect an onslaught of long, unresolved discussions.
Some agents take on a pushy, arrogant, or defensive manner: 1) To disrupt the agenda
2) To side-track the discussion
3) To interrupt repeatedly
4) To feign ignorance
5) To make an unfounded accusation against a person.
Calling someone a racist, for example. This tactic is used to discredit a person in the eyes of all other group members.

Saboteurs

Some saboteurs pretend to be activists. She or he will ....
1) Write encyclopedic flyers (in the present day, websites)
2) Print flyers in English only.
3) Have demonstrations in places where no one cares.
4) Solicit funding from rich people instead of grass roots support
5) Display banners with too many words that are confusing.
6) Confuse issues.
7) Make the wrong demands.
8) Cool Compromise the goal.
9) Have endless discussions that waste everyone's time. The agent may accompany the endless discussions with drinking, pot smoking or other amusement to slow down the activist's work.

Provocateurs

1) Want to establish "leaders" to set them up for a fall in order to stop the movement.
2) Suggest doing foolish, illegal things to get the activists in trouble.
3) Encourage militancy.
4) Want to taunt the authorities. 5) Attempt to make the activist compromise their values. 6) Attempt to instigate violence. Activisim ought to always be non-violent. 7) Attempt to provoke revolt among people who are ill-prepared to deal with the reaction of the authorities to such violence.

Informants

1) Want everyone to sign up and sing in and sign everything.
2) Ask a lot of questions (gathering data).
3) Want to know what events the activist is planning to attend.
4) Attempt to make the activist defend him or herself to identify his or her beliefs, goals, and level of committment. Recruiting Legitimate activists do not subject people to hours of persuasive dialog. Their actions, beliefs, and goals speak for themselves. Groups that DO recruit are missionaries, military, and fake political parties or movements set up by agents.

Surveillance

ALWAYS assume that you are under surveillance. At this point, if you are NOT under surveillance, you are not a very good activist!
Scare Tactics They use them.
Such tactics include slander, defamation, threats, getting close to disaffected or minimally committed fellow activists to persuade them (via psychological tactics described above) to turn against the movement and give false testimony against their former compatriots. They will plant illegal substances on the activist and set up an arrest; they will plant false information and set up "exposure," they will send incriminating letters [emails] in the name of the activist; and more; they will do whatever society will allow.
This booklet in no way covers all the ways agents use to sabotage the lives of sincere an dedicated activists.
If an agent is "exposed," he or she will be transferred or replaced. COINTELPRO is still in operation today under a different code name. It is no longer placed on paper where it can be discovered through the freedom of information act.
The FBI counterintelligence program's stated purpose: To expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, and otherwise neutralize individuals who the FBI categorize as opposed to the National Interests. "National Security" means the FBI's security from the people ever finding out the vicious things it does in violation of people's civil liberties.

Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Strong, credible allegations of high-level criminal activity can bring down a government. When the government lacks an effective, fact-based defense, other techniques must be employed. The success of these techniques depends heavily upon a cooperative, compliant press and a mere token opposition party.
  1. Dummy up. If it's not reported, if it's not news, it didn't happen.
  2. Wax indignant. This is also known as the "How dare you?" gambit.
  3. Characterize the charges as "rumors" or, better yet, "wild rumors." If, in spite of the news blackout, the public is still able to learn about the suspicious facts, it can only be through "rumors." (If they tend to believe the "rumors" it must be because they are simply "paranoid" or "hysterical.")
  4. Knock down straw men. Deal only with the weakest aspects of the weakest charges. Even better, create your own straw men. Make up wild rumors (or plant false stories) and give them lead play when you appear to debunk all the charges, real and fanciful alike.
  5. Call the skeptics names like "conspiracy theorist," "nutcase," "ranter," "kook," "crackpot," and, of course, "rumor monger." Be sure, too, to use heavily loaded verbs and adjectives when characterizing their charges and defending the "more reasonable" government and its defenders. You must then carefully avoid fair and open debate with any of the people you have thus maligned. For insurance, set up your own "skeptics" to shoot down.
  6. Impugn motives. Attempt to marginalize the critics by suggesting strongly that they are not really interested in the truth but are simply pursuing a partisan political agenda or are out to make money (compared to over-compensated adherents to the government line who, presumably, are not).
  7. Invoke authority. Here the controlled press and the sham opposition can be very useful.
  8. Dismiss the charges as "old news."
  9. Come half-clean. This is also known as "confession and avoidance" or "taking the limited hangout route." This way, you create the impression of candor and honesty while you admit only to relatively harmless, less-than-criminal "mistakes." This stratagem often requires the embrace of a fall-back position quite different from the one originally taken. With effective damage control, the fall-back position need only be peddled by stooge skeptics to carefully limited markets.
  10. Characterize the crimes as impossibly complex and the truth as ultimately unknowable.
  11. Reason backward, using the deductive method with a vengeance. With thoroughly rigorous deduction, troublesome evidence is irrelevant. E.g. We have a completely free press. If evidence exists that the Vince Foster "suicide" note was forged, they would have reported it. They haven't reported it so there is no such evidence. Another variation on this theme involves the likelihood of a conspiracy leaker and a press who would report the leak.
  12. Require the skeptics to solve the crime completely. E.g. If Foster was murdered, who did it and why?
  13. Change the subject. This technique includes creating and/or publicizing distractions.
  14. Lightly report incriminating facts, and then make nothing of them. This is sometimes referred to as "bump and run" reporting.
  15. Baldly and brazenly lie. A favorite way of doing this is to attribute the "facts" furnished the public to a plausible-sounding, but anonymous, source.
  16. Expanding further on numbers 4 and 5, have your own stooges "expose" scandals and champion popular causes. Their job is to pre-empt real opponents and to play 99-yard football. A variation is to pay rich people for the job who will pretend to spend their own money.
  17. Flood the Internet with agents. This is the answer to the question, "What could possibly motivate a person to spend hour upon hour on Internet news groups defending the government and/or the press and harassing genuine critics?" Don t the authorities have defenders enough in all the newspapers, magazines, radio, and television? One would think refusing to print critical letters and screening out serious callers or dumping them from radio talk shows would be control enough, but, obviously, it is not.
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2020.09.02 17:55 NoLanSym Intelligence and Propaganda

DARPA propaganda
Intelligence is often hiding in plain site.
I believe ex cia agent Robert Steele. When he says most of our intelligence community are without a doubt good people trapped in a bad system.
steele on intelligence and child sex trafficking
Learn these traits to armor yourself against the enemy.

Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation

Note: The first rule and last five (or six, depending on situation) rules are generally not directly within the ability of the traditional disinfo artist to apply. These rules are generally used more directly by those at the leadership, key players, or planning level of the criminal conspiracy or conspiracy to cover up.
  1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don't discuss it -- especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it's not reported, it didn't happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.
  2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the 'How dare you!' gambit.
  3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method which works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such 'arguable rumors'. If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a 'wild rumor' from a 'bunch of kids on the Internet' which can have no basis in fact.
  4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.
  5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary 'attack the messenger' ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as 'kooks', 'right-wing', 'liberal', 'left-wing', 'terrorists', 'conspiracy buffs', 'radicals', 'militia', 'racists', 'religious fanatics', 'sexual deviates', and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.
  6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism, reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.
  7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could be taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.
  8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough 'jargon' and 'minutia' to illustrate you are 'one who knows', and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.
  9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues except with denials they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.
  10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man -- usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with - a kind of investment for the future should the matter not be so easily contained.) Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually then be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues -- so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.
  11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the 'high road' and 'confess' with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made -- but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, 'just isn't so.' Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later, and even publicly 'call for an end to the nonsense' because you have already 'done the right thing.' Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for 'coming clean' and 'owning up' to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.
  12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to lose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.
  13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards or with an apparent deductive logic which forbears any actual material fact.
  14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best with issues qualifying for rule 10.
  15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.
  16. Vanish evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won't have to address the issue.
  17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can 'argue' with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.
  18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how 'sensitive they are to criticism.'
  19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the 'play dumb' rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon.) In order to completely avoid discussing issues, it may be required that you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.
  20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations -- as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.
  21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed and unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed. Usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim.
  22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.
  23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes.
  24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or destruction of their character by release of blackmail information, or merely by destroying them financially, emotionally, or severely damaging their health.
  25. Vanish. If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.

COINTELPRO Techniques for dilution: misdirection and control of a internet forum..

There are several techniques for the control and manipulation of a internet forum no matter what, or who is on it. We will go over each technique and demonstrate that only a minimal number of operatives can be used to eventually and effectively gain a control of a 'uncontrolled forum.'

Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING'

If a very sensitive posting of a critical nature has been posted on a forum - it can be quickly removed from public view by 'forum sliding.' In this technique a number of unrelated posts are quietly prepositioned on the forum and allowed to 'age.' Each of these misdirectional forum postings can then be called upon at will to trigger a 'forum slide.' The second requirement is that several fake accounts exist, which can be called upon, to ensure that this technique is not exposed to the public. To trigger a 'forum slide' and 'flush' the critical post out of public view it is simply a matter of logging into each account both real and fake and then 'replying' to prepositined postings with a simple 1 or 2 line comment. This brings the unrelated postings to the top of the forum list, and the critical posting 'slides' down the front page, and quickly out of public view. Although it is difficult or impossible to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the forum reading unrelated and non-issue items.

Technique #2 - 'CONSENSUS CRACKING'

A second highly effective technique is 'consensus cracking.' To develop a consensus crack, the following technique is used. Under the guise of a fake account a posting is made which looks legitimate and is towards the truth is made - but the critical point is that it has a VERY WEAK PREMISE without substantive proof to back the posting. Once this is done then under alternative fake accounts a very strong position in your favour is slowly introduced over the life of the posting. It is IMPERATIVE that both sides are initially presented, so the uninformed reader cannot determine which side is the truth. As postings and replies are made the stronger 'evidence' or disinformation in your favour is slowly 'seeded in.' Thus the uninformed reader will most like develop the same position as you, and if their position is against you their opposition to your posting will be most likely dropped. However in some cases where the forum members are highly educated and can counter your disinformation with real facts and linked postings, you can then 'abort' the consensus cracking by initiating a 'forum slide.'

Technique #3 - 'TOPIC DILUTION'

Topic dilution is not only effective in forum sliding it is also very useful in keeping the forum readers on unrelated and non-productive issues. This is a critical and useful technique to cause a 'RESOURCE BURN.' By implementing continual and non-related postings that distract and disrupt (trolling ) the forum readers they are more effectively stopped from anything of any real productivity. If the intensity of gradual dilution is intense enough, the readers will effectively stop researching and simply slip into a 'gossip mode.' In this state they can be more easily misdirected away from facts towards uninformed conjecture and opinion. The less informed they are the more effective and easy it becomes to control the entire group in the direction that you would desire the group to go in. It must be stressed that a proper assessment of the psychological capabilities and levels of education is first determined of the group to determine at what level to 'drive in the wedge.' By being too far off topic too quickly it may trigger censorship by a forum moderator.

Technique #4 - 'INFORMATION COLLECTION'

Information collection is also a very effective method to determine the psychological level of the forum members, and to gather intelligence that can be used against them. In this technique in a light and positive environment a 'show you mine so me yours' posting is initiated. From the number of replies and the answers that are provided much statistical information can be gathered. An example is to post your 'favourite weapon' and then encourage other members of the forum to showcase what they have. In this matter it can be determined by reverse proration what percentage of the forum community owns a firearm, and or a illegal weapon. This same method can be used by posing as one of the form members and posting your favourite 'technique of operation.' From the replies various methods that the group utilizes can be studied and effective methods developed to stop them from their activities.

Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING'

Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.

Technique #6 - 'GAINING FULL CONTROL'

It is important to also be harvesting and continually maneuvering for a forum moderator position. Once this position is obtained, the forum can then be effectively and quietly controlled by deleting unfavourable postings - and one can eventually steer the forum into complete failure and lack of interest by the general public. This is the 'ultimate victory' as the forum is no longer participated with by the general public and no longer useful in maintaining their freedoms. Depending on the level of control you can obtain, you can deliberately steer a forum into defeat by censoring postings, deleting memberships, flooding, and or accidentally taking the forum offline. By this method the forum can be quickly killed. However it is not always in the interest to kill a forum as it can be converted into a 'honey pot' gathering center to collect and misdirect newcomers and from this point be completely used for your control for your agenda purposes. CONCLUSION Remember these techniques are only effective if the forum participants DO NOT KNOW ABOUT THEM. Once they are aware of these techniques the operation can completely fail, and the forum can become uncontrolled. At this point other avenues must be considered such as initiating a false legal precidence to simply have the forum shut down and taken offline. This is not desirable as it then leaves the enforcement agencies unable to track the percentage of those in the population who always resist attempts for control against them. Many other techniques can be utilized and developed by the individual and as you develop further techniques of infiltration and control it is imperative to share then with HQ.
Note: The first rule and last five (or six, depending on situation) rules are generally not directly within the ability of the traditional disinfo artist to apply. These rules are generally used more directly by those at the leadership, key players, or planning level of the criminal conspiracy or conspiracy to cover up.

Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist

  1. Avoidance
They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide constructive input, generally avoiding citation of references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about their presentation implies their authority and expert knowledge in the matter without any further justification for credibility.
  1. Selectivity
They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either applying the hit-and-run approach against mere commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier attacks on key opponents who are known to directly address issues. Should a commentator become argumentative with any success, the focus will shift to include the commentator as well.
  1. Coincidental
They tend to surface suddenly and somewhat coincidentally with a new controversial topic with no clear prior record of participation in general discussions in the particular public arena involved. They likewise tend to vanish once the topic is no longer of general concern. They were likely directed or elected to be there for a reason, and vanish with the reason.
  1. Teamwork
They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute opponent presentation strength.
  1. Anti-conspiratorial
They almost always have disdain for 'conspiracy theorists' and, usually, for those who in any way believe JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold such disdain for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on defending a single topic discussed in a NG focusing on conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying to make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply ignore the group they hold in such disdain.Or, one might more rightly conclude they have an ulterior motive for their actions in going out of their way to focus as they do.
  1. Artificial Emotions
An odd kind of 'artificial' emotionalism and an unusually thick skin -- an ability to persevere and persist even in the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This likely stems from intelligence community training that, no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything, and never become emotionally involved or reactive. The net result for a disinfo artist is that emotions can seem artificial. Most people, if responding in anger, for instance, will express their animosity throughout their rebuttal. But disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining the 'image' and are hot and cold with respect to pretended emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional communications style. It's just a job, and they often seem unable to 'act their role in character' as well in a communications medium as they might be able in a real face-to-face conversation/confrontation. You might have outright rage and indignation one moment, ho-hum the next, and more anger later -- an emotional yo-yo. With respect to being thick-skinned, no amount of criticism will deter them from doing their job, and they will generally continue their old disinfo patterns without any adjustments to criticisms of how obvious it is that they play that game -- where a more rational individual who truly cares what others think might seek to improve their communications style, substance, and so forth, or simply give up.
  1. Inconsistent
There is also a tendency to make mistakes which betray their true self/motives. This may stem from not really knowing their topic, or it may be somewhat 'freudian', so to speak, in that perhaps they really root for the side of truth deep within. I have noted that often, they will simply cite contradictory information which neutralizes itself and the author. For instance, one such player claimed to be a Navy pilot, but blamed his poor communicating skills (spelling, grammar, incoherent style) on having only a grade-school education. I'm not aware of too many Navy pilots who don't have a college degree. Another claimed no knowledge of a particular topic/situation but later claimed first-hand knowledge of it.
  1. Time Constant
Recently discovered, with respect to News Groups, is the response time factor. There are three ways this can be seen to work, especially when the government or other empowered player is involved in a cover up operation: a) ANY NG posting by a targeted proponent for truth can result in an IMMEDIATE response. The government and other empowered players can afford to pay people to sit there and watch for an opportunity to do some damage. SINCE DISINFO IN A NG ONLY WORKS IF THE READER SEES IT - FAST RESPONSE IS CALLED FOR, or the visitor may be swayed towards truth. b) When dealing in more direct ways with a disinformationalist, such as email, DELAY IS CALLED FOR - there will usually be a minimum of a 48-72 hour delay. This allows a sit-down team discussion on response strategy for best effect, and even enough time to 'get permission' or instruction from a formal chain of command. c) In the NG example 1) above, it will often ALSO be seen that bigger guns are drawn and fired after the same 48-72 hours delay - the team approach in play. This is especially true when the targeted truth seeker or their comments are considered more important with respect to potential to reveal truth. Thus, a serious truth sayer will be attacked twice for the same sin.

How to Spot a Spy (Cointelpro Agent)

One way to neutralize a potential activist is to get them to be in a group that does all the wrong things.
Why? 1) The message doesn't get out. 2) A lot of time is wasted 3) The activist is frustrated and discouraged 4) Nothing good is accomplished.
FBI and Police Informers and Infiltrators will infest any group and they have phoney activist organizations established. Their purpose is to prevent any real movement for justice or eco-peace from developing in this country. Agents come in small, medium or large. They can be of any ethnic background. They can be male or female. The actual size of the group or movement being infiltrated is irrelevant. It is the potential the movement has for becoming large which brings on the spies and saboteurs.
This booklet lists tactics agents use to slow things down, foul things up, destroy the movement and keep tabs on activists. It is the agent's job to keep the activist from quitting such a group, thus keeping him/her under control.
In some situations, to get control, the agent will tell the activist: "You're dividing the movement." [Here, I have added the psychological reasons as to WHY this maneuver works to control people] This invites guilty feelings. Many people can be controlled by guilt. The agents begin relationships with activists behind a well-developed mask of "dedication to the cause." Because of their often declared dedication, (and actions designed to prove this), when they criticize the activist, he or she - being truly dedicated to the movement - becomes convinced that somehow, any issues are THEIR fault. This is because a truly dedicated person tends to believe that everyone has a conscience and that nobody would dissimulate and lie like that "on purpose." It's amazing how far agents can go in manipulating an activist because the activist will constantly make excuses for the agent who regularly declares their dedication to the cause. Even if they do, occasionally, suspect the agent, they will pull the wool over their own eyes by rationalizing: "they did that unconsciously... they didn't really mean it... I can help them by being forgiving and accepting " and so on and so forth.
The agent will tell the activist: "You're a leader!" This is designed to enhance the activist's self-esteem. His or her narcissistic admiration of his/her own activist/altruistic intentions increase as he or she identifies with and consciously admires the altruistic declarations of the agent which are deliberately set up to mirror those of the activist.
This is "malignant pseudoidentification." It is the process by which the agent consciously imitates or simulates a certain behavior to foster the activist's identification with him/her, thus increasing the activist's vulnerability to exploitation. The agent will simulate the more subtle self-concepts of the activist. Activists and those who have altruistic self-concepts are most vulnerable to malignant pseudoidentification especially during work with the agent when the interaction includes matter relating to their competency, autonomy, or knowledge.
The goal of the agent is to increase the activist's general empathy for the agent through pseudo-identification with the activist's self-concepts. The most common example of this is the agent who will compliment the activist for his competency or knowledge or value to the movement. On a more subtle level, the agent will simulate affects and mannerisms of the activist which promotes identification via mirroring and feelings of "twinship". It is not unheard of for activists, enamored by the perceived helpfulness and competence of a good agent, to find themselves considering ethical violations and perhaps, even illegal behavior, in the service of their agent/handler.
The activist's "felt quality of perfection" [self-concept] is enhanced, and a strong empathic bond is developed with the agent through his/her imitation and simulation of the victim's own narcissistic investments. [self-concepts] That is, if the activist knows, deep inside, their own dedication to the cause, they will project that onto the agent who is "mirroring" them. The activist will be deluded into thinking that the agent shares this feeling of identification and bonding. In an activist/social movement setting, the adversarial roles that activists naturally play vis a vis the establishment/government, fosters ongoing processes of intrapsychic splitting so that "twinship alliances" between activist and agent may render whole sectors or reality testing unavailable to the activist. They literally "lose touch with reality."
Activists who deny their own narcissistic investments [do not have a good idea of their own self-concepts and that they ARE concepts] and consciously perceive themselves (accurately, as it were) to be "helpers" endowed with a special amount of altruism are exceedingly vulnerable to the affective (emotional) simulation of the accomplished agent.
Empathy is fostered in the activist through the expression of quite visible affects. The presentation of tearfulness, sadness, longing, fear, remorse, and guilt, may induce in the helper-oriented activist a strong sense of compassion, while unconsciously enhancing the activist's narcissistic investment in self as the embodiment of goodness. The agent's expresssion of such simulated affects may be quite compelling to the observer and difficult to distinguish from deep emotion. It can usually be identified by two events:
  1. the activist who has analyzed his/her own narcissistic roots and is aware of his/her own potential for being "emotionally hooked," will be able to remain cool and unaffected by such emotional outpourings by the agent.
  2. The agent will recompensate much too quickly following such an affective expression leaving the activist with the impression that "the play has ended, the curtain has fallen," and the imposture, for the moment, has finished. The agent will then move quickly to another activist/victim.
The fact is, the movement doesn't need leaders, it needs

Movers

"Follow the leader" is a waste of time.
A good agent will want to meet as often as possible. He or she will talk a lot and say little. One can expect an onslaught of long, unresolved discussions.
Some agents take on a pushy, arrogant, or defensive manner: 1) To disrupt the agenda
2) To side-track the discussion
3) To interrupt repeatedly
4) To feign ignorance
5) To make an unfounded accusation against a person.
Calling someone a racist, for example. This tactic is used to discredit a person in the eyes of all other group members.

Saboteurs

Some saboteurs pretend to be activists. She or he will ....
1) Write encyclopedic flyers (in the present day, websites)
2) Print flyers in English only.
3) Have demonstrations in places where no one cares.
4) Solicit funding from rich people instead of grass roots support
5) Display banners with too many words that are confusing.
6) Confuse issues.
7) Make the wrong demands.
8) Cool Compromise the goal.
9) Have endless discussions that waste everyone's time. The agent may accompany the endless discussions with drinking, pot smoking or other amusement to slow down the activist's work.

Provocateurs

1) Want to establish "leaders" to set them up for a fall in order to stop the movement.
2) Suggest doing foolish, illegal things to get the activists in trouble.
3) Encourage militancy.
4) Want to taunt the authorities. 5) Attempt to make the activist compromise their values. 6) Attempt to instigate violence. Activisim ought to always be non-violent. 7) Attempt to provoke revolt among people who are ill-prepared to deal with the reaction of the authorities to such violence.

Informants

1) Want everyone to sign up and sing in and sign everything.
2) Ask a lot of questions (gathering data).
3) Want to know what events the activist is planning to attend.
4) Attempt to make the activist defend him or herself to identify his or her beliefs, goals, and level of committment. Recruiting Legitimate activists do not subject people to hours of persuasive dialog. Their actions, beliefs, and goals speak for themselves. Groups that DO recruit are missionaries, military, and fake political parties or movements set up by agents.

Surveillance

ALWAYS assume that you are under surveillance. At this point, if you are NOT under surveillance, you are not a very good activist!
Scare Tactics They use them.
Such tactics include slander, defamation, threats, getting close to disaffected or minimally committed fellow activists to persuade them (via psychological tactics described above) to turn against the movement and give false testimony against their former compatriots. They will plant illegal substances on the activist and set up an arrest; they will plant false information and set up "exposure," they will send incriminating letters [emails] in the name of the activist; and more; they will do whatever society will allow.
This booklet in no way covers all the ways agents use to sabotage the lives of sincere an dedicated activists.
If an agent is "exposed," he or she will be transferred or replaced. COINTELPRO is still in operation today under a different code name. It is no longer placed on paper where it can be discovered through the freedom of information act.
The FBI counterintelligence program's stated purpose: To expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, and otherwise neutralize individuals who the FBI categorize as opposed to the National Interests. "National Security" means the FBI's security from the people ever finding out the vicious things it does in violation of people's civil liberties.

Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Strong, credible allegations of high-level criminal activity can bring down a government. When the government lacks an effective, fact-based defense, other techniques must be employed. The success of these techniques depends heavily upon a cooperative, compliant press and a mere token opposition party.
  1. Dummy up. If it's not reported, if it's not news, it didn't happen.
  2. Wax indignant. This is also known as the "How dare you?" gambit.
  3. Characterize the charges as "rumors" or, better yet, "wild rumors." If, in spite of the news blackout, the public is still able to learn about the suspicious facts, it can only be through "rumors." (If they tend to believe the "rumors" it must be because they are simply "paranoid" or "hysterical.")
  4. Knock down straw men. Deal only with the weakest aspects of the weakest charges. Even better, create your own straw men. Make up wild rumors (or plant false stories) and give them lead play when you appear to debunk all the charges, real and fanciful alike.
  5. Call the skeptics names like "conspiracy theorist," "nutcase," "ranter," "kook," "crackpot," and, of course, "rumor monger." Be sure, too, to use heavily loaded verbs and adjectives when characterizing their charges and defending the "more reasonable" government and its defenders. You must then carefully avoid fair and open debate with any of the people you have thus maligned. For insurance, set up your own "skeptics" to shoot down.
  6. Impugn motives. Attempt to marginalize the critics by suggesting strongly that they are not really interested in the truth but are simply pursuing a partisan political agenda or are out to make money (compared to over-compensated adherents to the government line who, presumably, are not).
  7. Invoke authority. Here the controlled press and the sham opposition can be very useful.
  8. Dismiss the charges as "old news."
  9. Come half-clean. This is also known as "confession and avoidance" or "taking the limited hangout route." This way, you create the impression of candor and honesty while you admit only to relatively harmless, less-than-criminal "mistakes." This stratagem often requires the embrace of a fall-back position quite different from the one originally taken. With effective damage control, the fall-back position need only be peddled by stooge skeptics to carefully limited markets.
  10. Characterize the crimes as impossibly complex and the truth as ultimately unknowable.
  11. Reason backward, using the deductive method with a vengeance. With thoroughly rigorous deduction, troublesome evidence is irrelevant. E.g. We have a completely free press. If evidence exists that the Vince Foster "suicide" note was forged, they would have reported it. They haven't reported it so there is no such evidence. Another variation on this theme involves the likelihood of a conspiracy leaker and a press who would report the leak.
  12. Require the skeptics to solve the crime completely. E.g. If Foster was murdered, who did it and why?
  13. Change the subject. This technique includes creating and/or publicizing distractions.
  14. Lightly report incriminating facts, and then make nothing of them. This is sometimes referred to as "bump and run" reporting.
  15. Baldly and brazenly lie. A favorite way of doing this is to attribute the "facts" furnished the public to a plausible-sounding, but anonymous, source.
  16. Expanding further on numbers 4 and 5, have your own stooges "expose" scandals and champion popular causes. Their job is to pre-empt real opponents and to play 99-yard football. A variation is to pay rich people for the job who will pretend to spend their own money.
  17. Flood the Internet with agents. This is the answer to the question, "What could possibly motivate a person to spend hour upon hour on Internet news groups defending the government and/or the press and harassing genuine critics?" Don t the authorities have defenders enough in all the newspapers, magazines, radio, and television? One would think refusing to print critical letters and screening out serious callers or dumping them from radio talk shows would be control enough, but, obviously, it is not.
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2020.09.01 16:20 SundayRed Here are the results from the r/golf 2020 Census!

A big thanks to the 2055 of you who took a moment to complete the recent golf 2020 census.
This is a tremendous response and should provide a reasonable sample size among active users of this sub. Caveat: while my IRL work has a lot to do with digital media and numbers, I am no data scientist or Excel whiz, so I'm sure this isn't quite as good as it could be, but it's all I have time to do with now!
So without further ado, here are the results (and I have made the data available here if anyone wants to take a peek or slice and dice it for themselves). You can view natively in your browser, or simply click the 'download' button in the top right.
I might edit this later with some more findings, but that's enough for now! I'll be really interested to know what you think. What results surprise you? What results were you sure of? Please post and discuss your feedback!
1. How old are you? The average age of golf is 30.01 years. It's also the most common age selected in the census with 144 of you identifying as exactly 30 years old, 135 of you identifying as 31 and 134 identifying as 28 years.
The oldest respondent is 72 (and has a handicap of 5). The youngest respondent was 13, which is the minimum age to have a reddit account, which is why I cut it off there. The two 13-year-olds identify as being off 12 and 6 handicaps.
Just 108 of the sample size are teenagers, representing a mere of 5.26% of respondents.
2. What is your gender? A whopping 98.2% of us identify as male and just 1.1% female. I knew this sub was heavily skewed to men, but that's a LOT more than I expected.
3. What is your relationship status? 41.9% of this sub is married, 29.7% are in a relationship and 27.5% are single.
The average handicap of married golfers is 17.0, single 17.5 while golfers in a relationship are 18.4, suggesting this latter category is prioriting other matters in life :)
0.8% of married golfers and 1.1% of both single and golfers in relationship are better than scratch players
4. Where do you live? 79.7% of you live in the United States Canada is second with 8.1% and the UK third with 4.4%.
The top 10 is:
Country Count
USA 1637
Canada 166
UK 90
Australia 27
Sweden 26
Ireland 23
New Zealand 11
Norway 10
Germany 8
Netherlands/Denmark/Finland 7
There are single representatives from Antigua, the Bahamas, Dominican Republic, Georgia, Greece, Grenada, Iceland, Italy, Mexico, Oman, Pakistan, Poland, Romania and Thailand.
5. In which US state do you live? Here is where the Americans among us live:
State Count
California 171
Texas 108
New York 88
Illinois 69
Pennsylvania 63
Massachusetts/Ohio 62
Georgia 69
Florida/Michigan 58
Virginia 56
Minnesota 54
The states with the fewest golfers are Delaware and Montana (2 each) while Vermont and Wyoming each have 4 representatives on golf according to this census.
6. What is your current handicap? (rounded to the nearest whole number) According to this census, the average handicap or golf is slightly lower than 17.5 (slightly lower as there are 20 players who identify as better than scratch, but were counted as 0 for the purposes of this average).
7. Recently,my handicap has been... 1262 (61.35%) of you have been reducing your handicaps lately - well done! 8.81% of you need to stop the recent rise in your handicap 29.84% of you are remaining relatively unchanged/consistent
8. My status as a golfer is... The vast majority of us (96.15%) are amateur players/weekend hackers while there are at least 8 current professionals among us, 3 former pros and 68 aspiring pros
9. What would you say is your preferred brand of club? I appreciate this question didn't suit everyone, as putters are different to irons as wedges are different to drivers - you might like a brand in one club, but loathe it in another. Without wanting to make this survey too in-depth, I think the below table is a decent snapshot of golf's preferred club brands (and really sorry I forgot about the PXG crew!)
Brand # that express it as 'favorite'
TaylorMade 532
Callaway 380
Mizuno 303
Titleist 270
Ping 218
Cobra 126
Cleveland 46
Wilson 46
Nike 39
Srixon 32
Ben Hogan 20
Adams 13
Miura 9
Dunlop 6
Bridgestone 4
MacGregor 4
Bettinardi 2
Honma 2
Vulcan 2
Obviously a lot to unpack here and there a LOT of variables. Of particular interest is the love for a now defunct golf brand (Nike) ahead of leading brands such as Srixon and Miura. Also, there is a noticeable drop-off from Ping to Cobra and an even greater one from Cobra to Cleveland.
When you isolate the data to those with a 0 or better handicap, the results look like this:
TaylorMade (9) Titleist (7) Callaway (3) Mizuno (3) Ping (3) Cleveland (2) Miura (1) Nike (1)
10. Do you prefer to mix or match? 19.57% prefer to match your sets while 80.43% don't mind what's in the bag, as long as it works for you.
11. What brand of ball do you primarily play?
Brand Number who play it
Titleist 462
Whatever I find in my bag or the woods 290
Callaway 249
TaylorMade 211
Srixon 194
Bridgestone 170
Kirkland 121
Vice 119
Snell 79
Wilson 39
Nike 21
Top Flite 19
Oncore 16
Maxfli 13
Inesis 8
Volvik 8
Mizuno 7
Pinnacle 6
Noodle 3
Seed 2
Sugar 2
Slazenger 2
OtheVarious 12
12. Do you think the ball you play has a significant impact on your game? 37.59% of you think it's VERY important 19.40% of you don't think it matters at all 43.01% don't mind, as long as it's a ball by a 'leading' manufacturer
17/20 of BETTER than scratch golfers said that ball choice is critical. The only surprising thing about this is that it wasn't 20/20! The average handicap of players who suggest ball choice is very important is 14.16 (down 3+ whole points from the overall golf average) and if you include the BETTER than scratch handicappers as zero, that falls to 13.85.
13. What is your position on iron covers? 57 of you (2.77%) use iron covers 821 of you (39.97%) of you think these 57 people should be openly mocked 1176 (57.26%) of you think these 57 people should do whatever they like :)
14. Do you drink alcohol while golfing? 17.96% of you don't see any difference between a golf course and an open bar 29.60% of you drink and play some of the time 24.74% of you drink occasionally 27.70% of you never drink while golfing
Of the 29 zero or better handicappers among us, 11 never drink on the course and 5 drink most of the time!
15. What is your preferred tee time? 40.55% of you enjoy gettingup at the crack of dawn for an early morning tee time 27.46% of you like a morning slot, but without the early wake-up 14.41% of you would rather play in the afternoon 13.00% of you enjoy finishing the day with twilight golf Just 4.58% of you prefer to tee off at lunchtime
16. What is your preferred way of getting around the course? 45.13% of you prefer driving 32.18% of you are card carrying members of the push cart mafia 22.69% of you mental bastards prefer to walk and carry
17. Are you a member of a club? 71.23% of golf are nomads 23.81% of us are full year members of a club 4.96% of us are members of a club for part of the year
18. Have you ever had a hole-in-one? 10.18% of you have an ace to your name 89.82% of us are still searching for that elusive milestone!
19. Who do you prefer golfing with? 76.53% of us would rather golf with our friends 12.03% most enjoy playing with family 10.37% prefer the solitude of a solo round 1.07% of you most enjoy the company of strangers
20. Hot or cold? 67.53% of you would prefer to play in roasting hot conditions 32.47% would rather play in the freezing cold
21. What is your biggest pet peeve on the course?
Here's how you responded to the pre-defined answers:
Peeve # of you who most hate this
Slow play 1051
Lack of course care 214
People who hit up on you 204
'Put me down for bogey' guy 147
People who litter 145
Bluetooth speakers 111
Unsolicited advice 93
And here are some of the best 'write in' answers!
22. What do you consider to be the best part of your game? 34.95% of you are best with an iron in your hands 31.44% of you are magicians around the green with a wedge 16.84% of you feel most at home on the greens 16.77% of you love to step on to the tee with the big dog
23. What do you consider to be the worst part of your game? 45.62% of you aren't confident with driver in hand 20.25% of you least like putting 18.55% don't strike irons well compared to the rest of your game 15.58% of you are most uncomfortable with a wedge
24. Assuming you had not achieved either, would you rather... 68.01% of you would rather play a whole round to par or better 31.99% of you would prefer to write a "1" on your score card
25. Which shot produces the most pleasure for you? An utterly PURE mid/long iron right out of the sweet spot (40.12%) Ripping a booming drive down the middle of the fairway (30.62%) Reading the break and hitting the ideal weight on a putt (11.74%) A pin-point chip/pitch to tap-in range (9.54%) Crushing a wood off the deck (4.67%) Splashing out of the sand to a few inches from the cup (2.58%) A perfectly judged bump & run (0.73%)
So that's all of the questions with pre-defined answers, which was much easier for me to dissect than the qualitative answers to come! With upward of 2000 responses, I can't depict every answer, so have done my best to group them and provide some outlying humour and interesting responses.
26. Who are you picking to drain a 20-foot breaking putt to save your life?
By far the most popular response was "Tiger" or a variation of it (including "2000 Sunday Tiger" or "Young Tiger" or simply just an emoji and there are so many variations of TW, Eldrick, El Tigre etc. that I am not going to tally them up - just trust me on this, he is far and away the top choice!)
A lot of you would back yourself for the putt. Some because you legitimately think you will make it, others because they will feel more motivated than anyone on earth while others wouldn't consider burdening another person with that responsibility!
So here's the list I've generated with everyone who had 5 or more mentions.
  • Tiger Woods (714) - not including the aforementioned variations of his name, so I suspect that more than half of you will have chosen TW in some way, shape or form
  • Myself (139)
  • Jordan Spieth (121)
  • Jack Nicklaus (83)
  • Phil Mickelson (82)
  • Dustin Johnson (76)
  • Rickie Fowler (62)
  • Justin Thomas (58)
  • Jason Day (49)
  • Kevin Kisner (31)
  • Bryson DeChambeau (26)
  • Colin Morikawa (20)
  • Brad Faxon (18)
  • Kevin Na (17) - and two said "just so he can walk it in"
  • Steve Stricker (16)
  • Rory McIlroy (15)
  • My dad (13)
  • Dennis McCarthy (12)
  • Anyone but myself (11)
  • Happy Gilmore (11)...uh oh, Happy learned how to putt!
  • Jesus (11)
  • Ben Crenshaw (10)
  • Brandt Snedeker (9)
  • Webb Simpson (9)
  • Matt Kuchar (8)
  • Ian Poulter (8)
  • Brooks Koepka (6)
  • Arnold Palmer (6)
  • Tommy Fleetwood (6)
  • Jim Furyk (6)
  • Jon Rahm (5) - would have been a lot more after last weekend!
  • Patrick Reed (5)
A special shout out to....
  • The 6 people who would choose my mom (clearly good putting is not hereditary)
  • The 3 people who said "The Club Pro Guy"
  • The 2 people who said Michael Phelps
  • The 2 who said Batman
  • The 1 cool cat who said Carole Baskin
  • The 1 who nominated Rick Shiels because he "prefers some risk"
  • And the wise guy who said "a robot designed for putting" (see: 2000 Tiger)
27. If you could change one rule in golf, what would it be?
Another one where I made it pretty difficult to analyse and display the results! But here are a few of the top answers (in what I interpret as order of popularity), and please feel free to access the results yourself if you want to sort through them all.
  • Lost ball to become a drop at nearest point of relief for a one-shot penalty instead of reloading for three
  • All hazards/OOB to be red stakes for consistency
  • Be permitted to ground your club in a bunker
  • Relax dress codes (including allowing tour players to wear shorts)
  • "Gallery Balls" whereby amateurs receive a free drop for a 'lost' ball that is definitely in play
  • All players should receive relief from fairway divots
  • Any drop/penalty should just be one stroke (a LOT of you think all OB should be treated as a lateral hazard)
  • A certain number of mulligans per round (most said one, but some of you want up to 3 per nine!)
  • Actual enforcement of penalties for slow play and/or a shot clock
  • Be permitted to lift, clean and place on all fairways
  • Free relief for things like ree roots, fences etc.
  • Drop height... some of you want it lower (ankle) and some of you want it back to the waist!
  • Change number of clubs permitted in bag (interestingly, half of those who suggested this want fewer and the other half want more - there doesn't seem to be a universal consensus)
  • That inconsequential and accidental touches of the ball or sand should not result in a penalty
  • Allow rangefinders/slope in competitive play
  • Preferred lies within one club-length no nearer the hole on all grass and bunker sand
  • Flagsticks should remain in the cup 100% of the time
  • Overturn the ban on anchoring
  • Slightly bigger cups
  • Stymies should be permitted
While sorting through these responses, it became apparent just how difficult it is to please all golfers. On one line, someone says "Collared shirts compulsory" and on the next, someone says "Collared shirts optional!"
And finally, this one tickled me...
"If you are not on the green and can run to your ball and play another shot within 5 seconds, the first one shouldn't count!"
28. What is your hottest/most controversial golf take?
Another one that's impossible to really depict succinctly, so here are some interesting responses, copied and pasted exactly as you wrote them!
  • (most) old people ruin the game (gatekeeping & arrogance towards younger generation)
  • "Annoying fans" are necessary to grow the sport
  • 18 holes per game is too many
  • 70% of people should be playing from the red tees. Move forward
  • Alcohol should be banned on the course
  • Alignment lines on balls should be banned
  • All private clubs should have a public day
  • Amateur golfers on YouTube do more for attracting new people to the sport than pros on TV
  • Augusta as a course/club is overhyped. If it wasn't for the exclusivity and the masters itself, it would be considered an average course
  • Bad golfers should be relegated to non-ideal tee times
  • Blades make you a better golfer because you can feel where your misses are on the face
  • Breaking 80 isn’t impressive if it’s not from the tips
  • Brooks is more annoying than Bryson
  • Bryson and brooks are likable, talented guys
  • Bryson and Patrick reed are good for the game (several dozen more Bryson takes!)
  • Carts should only be used by people with mobility issues
  • Corn Ferry far superior to European tour
  • Dress codes are stupid
  • European Tour is more difficult than the PGA Tour
  • Everyone cheats, somehow or some way
  • Fairway shots are most times harder than shots out of the rough on low quality courses
  • Fedex Cup should be match play
  • Fitting is the biggest scam going. It is a sales tool and nothing more.
  • Getting married ruins the promising careers of young pga pros (see Jordan, tiger, rory, rickie, DJ)
  • Gimmes are acceptable and should be reasonable encouraged in social (non-competitive) play
  • Gimmes suck and hurt your game
  • Glove should not be removed during putting
  • Golf courses are a waste of resources and land
  • Golf decorum means something and isn't designed to be purely elitist
  • golf fans are the worst fans of any sport
  • Golf isn’t fun to watch just to play
  • Handicapping is a participation trophy for bad players
  • Hazards should not be raked, they are hazards
  • Hitting Fairway Woods off the deck is far easier than off the tee
  • Hole in one's aren't that special
  • I don't like Phil Mickelson
  • I don't really mind slow play
  • I don't think you should mark your ball on the putting green for the other golfers. Putt around other balls.
  • I love golf but hate golfers
  • I'd be on tour if I was given 1 year to train, a new fitted set of clubs, and had no obligations to anything outside of golf (this respondent is a scratch player)
  • I'd like to see a tournament with separate tees: womens/champions/PGA, all competing for the same $/trophy
  • I'd rather hit a great drive and double bogey than dink my iron a few times and par
  • If Bryson was black people would focus on the fact that he is changing the game and advancing it rather than focusing on his minor blunders he has had and blowing them out of proportion.
  • If you can’t shoot under 100, you have no business being on a regulation/championship 18 hole golf course
  • Instead of rolling back the ball, ban the use of tees
  • Iron covers aren’t terrible
  • Irons should be labeled with loft not numbers
  • Leaving the pin in to putt is better than taking it out
  • Men can learn way more from watching the LPGA than the PGA Tour
  • Mulligans are stupid and you cheat yourself out of an actual score
  • Music being played from the cart should not be distracting during a random weekend tee time. We aren’t on tour.
  • No discount should be given if the greens are aerated
  • No one should take more than one practice swing. Just get up and hit the ball.
  • Nobody wants to see pros play ridiculously tough courses where the winner is -1.
  • Older men at golf courses prove millennial aren't the entitled generation, its the 50 to 60 old dude who is
  • Pace of play is less of an issue than people make it out to be in the amateur game
  • PGA tour broadcast juices yardages for casual fans
  • Players on the tour aren’t too long, it’s cool to see what they can do with the same equipment as us
  • Playing forward by a set of tees doesn't make you less of a man
  • Playing more rounds will help you improve scores faster than range sessions. Rounds are what get scored, not repeated hits off turf.
  • Practice swings don't work and are generally pointless
  • Prime tiger wouldn’t go on that run he had today against this new talent
  • Pro Golfers should be able to play through noise and heckling
  • Pro V1s are overrated and mainly used by people for placebo
  • Pros are playing for millions of dollars they are allowed to be entitled and whine
  • Pros should carry their own bags
  • Putters over $100 are a waste of money
  • Rowdy fans are alright
  • Ryder Cup is better than any major
  • Scottys are not overpriced
  • Scrambles are a horrible way to play golf
  • Shafts don't matter for most golfers
  • Solo golfers do not have the right of way as long as the group ahead is meeting course pace of play
  • Stepping on someone's putting line makes no difference
  • Take the driver out of the bag. You’ll shoot better.
  • Tee boxes based on handicap not age/gender
  • The British Open is more prestigious than the Masters
  • The top 20 LPGA players could make bank on the men's tour if they could tee off from 100 yards ahead
  • The US Open is a better tournament than the Masters
  • There are like 5 people on the subreddit qualified to give swing advice
  • Tiger doesn't care to win again
  • Unless you are a 10 handicap or better, the ball you play does not matter
  • US Open should only be played at public golf courses
  • Waiting for the group in front of you is not hard or annoying
  • Womens golf is more entertaining to watch
  • Yelling fore does nothing. You’re on a course be aware of your surroundings.
  • You should have to have a license to play golf. Nothing crazy just take an online class that would go over basic rules and etiquette.
29. What is the best golf course you have ever played?
Have aggregated the most popular answers to the best of my ability, capped at 6+ responses.
  • Pebble Beach (17)
  • Chambers Bay (16)
  • Half-Moon Bay (15)
  • Torrey Pines (13)
  • Whistling Straits (12)
  • TPC Scottsdale (11)
  • Bethpage Black (10)
  • Arcadia Bluffs (9)
  • Wolf Creek (9)
  • Tobacco Road (8)
  • Sypglass (8)
  • Pinehurst #2 (7)
  • Pasatiempo (6)
  • TPC Sawgrass (6)
30. What is your bucket list course that you are yet to play?
Again, a lot of variations here which made it tough for me to sort the data, but have done my best to sample a Top 10. I was very surprised to see Augusta behind St Andrews and so far behind Pebble but I suppose people subconsciously don't vote for courses they have no legitimate way of ever playing. I'd be interested to see these results if I re-phrased the question to "You have a free, no questions asked tee time anywhere in the world, name your club..."
  • Pebble Beach (433)
  • St Andrews (200)
  • Augusta (193)
  • Bandon Dunes (119)
  • Pinehurst #2 (61)
  • TPC Sawgrass (49)
  • Bethpage Black (35)
  • Torrey Pines (22)
  • Whistling Straits (22)
  • Wolf Creek (21)
31. What is the ONE thing golf administrators ought to do to encourage more people (particularly young people) to play the sport?
This was a genuinely encouraging list of 2000+ results to read though. We often read about the 'doom & gloom' aspects of the future of our sport, but there is a vibrant and dedicated golf community out there thinking of ways to perpetuate interest in the sport and keep the flame lit for the next generation.
Again, here's a sampling of what I would consider to be the most popular responses.
  • Make the game less cost prohibitive (this is a big one - everything from clubs to green fees to beers)
  • Open 'masterclasses' or free clinics from pros at ranges and local clubs (another big one)
  • Shorter courses (9 or 12 hole)
  • Heavily discounted beers for 18+ players
  • More facilities like Top Golf
  • A greater focus on 9-hole game, tee times, handicap structure etc.
  • All clubs should have a dedicated youth program
  • Allow interest free payment plans for things like memberships, clubs etc.
  • Alter rules to make it less elite/proper ie. mulligans, preferred lies etc.
  • Allow kids (U15) to play free (and rent clubs free), or at heavily reduced rates
  • Alternate course routing that allows you to come off whenever you like, not necessarily play 18
  • Kids play free with a paying adult (ensuring pace of play is maintained)
  • Relax the dress code and 'traditional' golf culture ie. be far less elitist
  • Twilight 9-hole beer leagues, aimed at young professionals looking for something to do after work
  • Carving out tee time blocks for 'beginners' so they don't feel pressured
  • Similarly, these blocks might be "free for all" in terms of attire, etiquette etc. so if a 14-year-old shows up in a hoodie, carrying 18 clubs and wants to have two mulligans from every tee, it's completely fine!
  • Introduce golf to public schools through gym/PE classes
  • More tech in carts and ability to connect bluetooth (with limited volume)
  • Change the nomenclature of "women's" tees to "beginner" or "forward" tees
  • Close the course one day a month for beginners, with teaching pros on the course and range
  • Pace of play is important, but if newbies feel intimidated they will never come back
  • Encourage mini games within a round for kids ie. straightest shot, nearest to pin etc.
  • Engage with local community/government to identify talented (possibly minority) athletes who would otherwise have no access to golf and get clubs in their hand
  • Decrease the emphasis on score - make it FUN and about the process, not the end result
  • More social events BEYOND golf in local clubs to build the golfing community rapport
  • Improve the professional tour TV and online products
32. What is the best tip, or piece of advice you have ever received that's improved your game?
This one is just too crazy to aggregate, so please view all responses (in column AG) here :)
But I will list EVERY bit of advice provided by our scratch or better players.
  • Only hit shots you know you can hit
  • Just keep playing
  • Don't think, just do
  • If you chunk chips, focus on using you left (right handed) hand more than your right
  • Focus on the next shot
  • Get a lesson
  • You're not good enough to get mad
  • Slow tempo always creates a better shot
  • Tempo tempo tempo! 90% of my bad swings are rushing at the top and hands getting ahead of my body
  • Hammer the nail
  • You don't control the outcome, focus on the process
  • Bowed left wrist
  • Being mad is ok, being negative is not
  • Ask quetions of people who are better than you
  • Focus on the shot you have now, not the one you just hit
  • Swing on a plane
  • Eliminate the double cross
  • Play your game
  • Before all else, hit the center of the face
  • Aim small, miss small
  • Care less
  • Slow Down
  • Learn how to properly manage the course
  • The only shot that matters is the next
  • Rotation is the wrong word, you're not supposed to rotate
  • Relax your grip
  • Accelerate THROUGH the ball - let the ball simply get in the way of your club head’s swing path
33. If you had the attention of EVERY SINGLE PLAYER in the world for 10 whole seconds, what would you say?
Again, too much for me to break down, so you can see all responses here in column AH, but here are some of my favorites and some of the more popular ones!
  • Fix your ball mark
  • Hurry the fuck up
  • One practice swing is enough
  • Leave the flag in
  • Pick up your fucking trash
  • Have more fun on the course - it's a game after all
  • Enjoy this game while we can - it's truly a privilege
  • Accommodate the new as when you are gone, they are all that are left to carry the game
  • Grip it and rip it
  • Focus on contact before power
  • Sam Snead's win record is B.S.
  • Thank you for making me feel like I'm not the only person obsessed with this game
  • If you love golf, take new people golfing
  • Be considerate to players of all skill levels and work to grow the game not alienate newcomers
  • Keep your tempo up through the chip shot
  • Yelling "FORE" could save someone's life (including tour players)
  • FORE RIGHT
  • Your ego doesn't exist, let it go
  • Don't be a dick, treat the game/courses right, and if you're going to suck, suck at a faster pace
  • There's always someone worse than you
  • You don't practice enough to get that mad
  • You aren’t as good as you think and that's okay
  • Go get fitted, it will pay for itself many times over in the long run
  • Be ready to hit your shot before it's your turn
  • You hit the ball 15 yards shorter than you think you do
  • At your best as a pro, you’ll never be half as good as Tiger's peak
  • Mashed potatoes
  • It's our job to grow the game.
  • Baba booey
  • Jim Nantz, please come do the color commentary for one my rounds
  • Take some damn lessons and stop buying $500 drivers
  • Stop giving yourself gimmies, put the ball in the hole
  • Smell the roses, enjoy the views
  • Golf is hard
  • All of you sandbaggers are going to hell
  • Hurry the fuck up, and stop spending a minute perfectly adjusting the line on that 15 footer for bogey
  • It's our job to grow the game
  • ONE FUCKING PRACTICE SWING
Thanks again for your input! I might edit this later with some more findings, but that's enough for now!
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